Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

That is a stupid comment you posted. Have you viewd some of his items. He or she obviously didn't take a store bought item and is trying to sell it as game issued. Not saying how his items are obtained... but I never saw naything like he has in the local sporting goods department. Terrible and ignorant rebutle.

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I noticed you tie lambeau with stating he obtained his items directly from the teams. Where did you get this source? I searched all current and past auctions and cannot find that statement. Wouldn't that be TEAM ISSUED????

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

Eric, could you please check the IP # on this 50th new poster defending lambeau? Part of his charade seems to be creating countless new userid's to defend his theft program. Sad, very sad, if this latest traces back to him.

As for the poster's points, read the thread and you'll see I discussed BOTH GA and Radtke, and I've spoken to both companies in the past. The owner of GA sells very few "game issued" items and has honestly discussed them with me. While he won't go so far as to claim all came from the locker room, he does strongly claim all he sells come from team sources, and you'll note most are Pats items - he is in that area and seems to have very good connections with the Pats.

As for Rick Radtke, I've argued his use of the term "game issue" with him before, I agree his "game issue" items are simply copies and he readily admits same if asked, no lies, no b.s. stories like lambeau.

In both cases, I got straight answers from them and neither went so far as lambeau in trying to convince buyers these are locker room obtained items. Further, both are HUGE and reputable sellers in the industry, lambeau is an independent hack.

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I see how you work. If someone debates you on facts you think there is something crooked going on. Why have this forum if subjects cannot be debated. You state Gridiron and Radtke are reputable but Lambeu is a crook. Aren't they doing the EXACT same thing. I guess if I just go along with you everything is good. Maybe lambea should chenge his or her descriptions but let's not call one kettle black and the other reputable. I am going to try to contact lambea and post his/her comments.

[reed1216]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

big1z- The way the forums works is this... If there is an unscrupulous seller that continues to sell quetionable things to the collecting public, a discussion usually results. These discussions have saved several members here thousands of dollars. If you have a problem with the way this works- that's an issue for you to resolve on your own.

I imagine that business was better for you before there was a forum that acted to protect collectors. I would rather see your...err lambeau's business suffer than to see others victimized by your, err his/her shady business practices.

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I wish I knew what you were talking about.......

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I wish I knew what you were talking about.......

Ok, we'll play. Why don't we start by you telling us what your connection to lambeauleeper IS, and why you suddenly created a new account here with virtually every new post being in support of this well documented charlatan?

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

Not interested in playing games. Just bringing up legitimate facts. If there is anyone out there who can help me with the thread I started concerning a Joe Monatana GAME WORN jersey on EBay I would greatly appreciate it.

[aeneas01]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

As for the poster's points, read the thread and you'll see I discussed BOTH GA and Radtke, and I've spoken to both companies in the past. The owner of GA sells very few "game issued" items and has honestly discussed them with me. While he won't go so far as to claim all came from the locker room, he does strongly claim all he sells come from team sources, and you'll note most are Pats items - he is in that area and seems to have very good connections with the Pats.

As for Rick Radtke, I've argued his use of the term "game issue" with him before, I agree his "game issue" items are simply copies and he readily admits same if asked, no lies, no b.s. stories like lambeau.

i feel that radtke and gridiron misuse the term "game issue" and, sadly, i feel they both misuse it intentionally in order to imply a value (for obvious reasons) which doesn't actually exist.

today i spoke with a gentleman at radtke, a very nice guy btw, who struck me as very uncomfortable when asked to explain why radtke felt it was o.k. to describe the favre helmet as "game issue" - it also struck me that the guy knew it was nonsense and didn't really have the energy to defend these choice of words. he admitted, almost embarrassingly, that radtke used the term "game issue" to distinguish a stock riddell pro-line helmet from a stock riddell pro-line helmet with custom decals. he also admitted that he "understood" how the use of "game issue" could be misleading.

despite their misuse of the term "game issue", both radtke and gridiron can't even begin to be lumped in with the crook lambeauleeper. never do radtke or gridiron begin to claim that these helmets (knockoffs with custom decals) were issued to the players for on-field use nor do they claim that these helmets ever belonged to the players. lambeauleeper, on the other hand, blatantly lies through his teeth and makes these exact claims. lambeauleeper is a crook who preys on newbies - he's a liar and a cheat who peddles knockoffs. he's a crook.

but, again, thanks to this wonderful forum it looks like his pool of unknowing buyers is ever-shrinking. heck, given that lambeauleer seems to enjoy spending so much time here i suspect his potential buyers would as well. i think i will list one of my game used helmets on ebay and be sure to include in the item description directions to this great site and what to look for once the interested party arrives...

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I emailed lambeauleeper and explained to him the concerns this forum has. Especially his helmets. He stated he obtains his items from trades, shows and direct sources which he wouldn't conceed. After I explained that buyers could misrepresent his items and the concerns that he is getting items directly from teams or players he responded, "I have no intentions in misrepresenting my items. I never post or state that I receive the items directly from teams or players". He agreed to list future helmets as GAME helmets and let the buyer make up their own mind based on the items photos rather than the description. He also stated he listed the tiles as such to get more views. I guess we'll see what happens. I hope this helps?

[aeneas01]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

...He also stated he listed the titles as such to get more views.

hmmm...

i guess that's why the marino helmet was also described as:

"A Dan Marino (9+ years old) helmet is IMPOSSIBLE to obtain. This helmet was issued to Dan Marino for on-field GAME USE during the 1998 season."

you know, just to get more views. good grief, have you no shame?

speaking of lambeau's fake marino helmet currently up for bid, i'm happy to report that it doesn't look like it's doing too well - at least not as well as one of lambeau's other "impossible to find, game issued/worn marino helmet issued to him for on-field use" which sold for over $1,000 on ebay earlier this year....

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

Am I missing something or has lambeau softened his sales pitch as a result of the debates here? His relisted Marino helmet now reads:

"A "GAME" helmet is much harder to obtain than a "GAME" jersey. A Dan Marino (9+ years old) "GAME" helmet is IMPOSSIBLE to obtain! This helmet has the EXACT specifications of a Dan Marino "GAME" helmet used during the 1998 season. Exclusive features found on this Dan Marino GAME HELMET include Riddell VSR-4 custom metallic white large helmet, proper mil. (thickness) decaling, single aqua/orange/black/blue center stripping, NFL shield decal, #13, clear warning decal, Dolphins aqua/blue/black rear bumper, proper front aqua Riddell, black shock blockers facemask clips, Dan Marino's vintage custom aqua Schutt facemask, correct Riddell (white) 4-point chinstrap, etc. VERY RARE offering from this HALL-OF-FAME Quarterback!!! Payment due within 7 days. I accept personal checks (10 day hold), cashier checks, money orders and credit cards through PAYPAL."

[aeneas01]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

Am I missing something or has lambeau softened his sales pitch as a result of the debates here? His relisted Marino helmet now reads:

"A "GAME" helmet is much harder to obtain than a "GAME" jersey. A Dan Marino (9+ years old) "GAME" helmet is IMPOSSIBLE to obtain! This helmet has the EXACT specifications of a Dan Marino "GAME" helmet used during the 1998 season. Exclusive features found on this Dan Marino GAME HELMET include Riddell VSR-4 custom metallic white large helmet, proper mil. (thickness) decaling, single aqua/orange/black/blue center stripping, NFL shield decal, #13, clear warning decal, Dolphins aqua/blue/black rear bumper, proper front aqua Riddell, black shock blockers facemask clips, Dan Marino's vintage custom aqua Schutt facemask, correct Riddell (white) 4-point chinstrap, etc. VERY RARE offering from this HALL-OF-FAME Quarterback!!! Payment due within 7 days. I accept personal checks (10 day hold), cashier checks, money orders and credit cards through PAYPAL."

yeah, i saw this as well - but his original item description was so replete with lies that he was unable to catch them all when he did his rewrite...

"VERY RARE offering from this HALL-OF-FAME Quarterback!!! "

i wish i could applaud this guy for trying to come clean but i can't for a couple of reasons:

1) by relisting the marino helmet as he has he's admitted what we've known all along - that he's a fraud who sells replica helmets (among other things) while intentionally trying to pass them off as once belonging to the player. he has bilked many buyers as a result of this calculated dishonesty and, in my book, needs to contact each one and fess up and apologize (while offering some sort of monetary compensation) before i'm prepared to offer an ounce of respect - he could start with you!

and

2) i feel he is only coming clean because he knows this forum can hurt his business and embarrass him in the process, he wants to be respected by those in this forum and the hobby and, most importantly, it has occured to him that he can still fetch around $1,000 by listing his items as "game" given that radtke and gridiron have proven this while at the same time earning the respect of collectors.

but you have to admit that he's some kind of character, eh? coming onto to this board using various user names trying to back himself - que cojones! btw, mvandor - i came across some of your posts on ebay's board; very nice job fighting the good fight!

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

yeah, i saw this as well - but his original item description was so replete with lies that he was unable to catch them all when he did his rewrite...

"VERY RARE offering from this HALL-OF-FAME Quarterback!!! "

i wish i could applaud this guy for trying to come clean but i can't for a couple of reasons:

1) by relisting the marino helmet as he has he's admitted what we've known all along - that he's a fraud who sells replica helmets (among other things) while intentionally trying to pass them off as once belonging to the player. he has bilked many buyers as a result of this calculated dishonesty and, in my book, needs to contact each one and fess up and apologize (while offering some sort of monetary compensation) before i'm prepared to offer an ounce of respect - he could start with you!

and

2) i feel he is only coming clean because he knows this forum can hurt his business and embarrass him in the process, he wants to be respected by those in this forum and the hobby and, most importantly, it has occured to him that he can still fetch around $1,000 by listing his items as "game" given that radtke and gridiron have proven this while at the same time earning the respect of collectors.

but you have to admit that he's some kind of character, eh? coming onto to this board using various user names trying to back himself - que cojones! btw, mvandor - i came across some of your posts on ebay's board; very nice job fighting the good fight!

Well, I reckon his rewrite is a step of progress, he's now walking the Radtke line, which while I agree is still an abuse of the term "game issue", is at least gray enough to be obvious to an experienced collector.

BTW, I should note that the owner of GA claims that his "game issue" helmets are in fact not in the same class as the Radtke's. He has told me that he and his staff add nothing to the "game issue" helmets as far as stickers, etc, that he receives them from "team sources" as they appear in their listings. I did note that he wasn't laser specific that they all originated from the teams, in fact his careful wording left open the possibility that they came from a source supplying the teams. He only has ONE listed currently, a Favre throwback: http://cgi.ebay.com/BRETT-FAVRE-AUTO...QQcmdZViewItem

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

Why can't you give this person a break. If anything maybe he is comming clean after I wrote him concerning how he lists his items. Has anyone EVER tried this? Also NO ONE complains about his GAME ISSUED jerseys. Maybe his items are legit based on how he purchased them originally. GRIDIRON is full of it. He has listed items in the past as issued to players for on-field use. He is no more reputable than lambeau. He has access to players through signings so that give him the right to B.S. about getting helmets from team sources. If so why the wrong helmet sizes, incorrect helmet decals and sizes, etc. AGAIN, LET'S BE PARTCIAL!!!