BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

[SuperMario66]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

supermario66, you seem cannot see the different ???
the old logos are from 1994 super bowl against dallas..
the other pictures with THICKER champion logos are from 1994 seaosn

other guys saying NFL teams recycle jerseys , YES you may be right BUT BILLS DID NOT RECYCLE THEIR JERSEYS from 1993 to 1994 beacuse champion got their new style n logos, you can see during 1994 season, it showed new champion logo above the numbers OR next to the numbers , the champion logo during 1994 season is DIFFERENT THAN 1993,1992,1991,1990 !!! I KNOW BILLS UNIFORM HISTORY VERY WELL , i even correctly a guy who think he owned game worn jim kelly 80s jersey, but its not even his as bad numbers and all. TRUST ME BILLS did not recycle jerseys for 1994 season as its special season because of 75th season. AND champion made "new" year tagging by having team's helmet and year next to size tag on lower tail of the jerseys, that applied to BEARS,and BILLS that i know of ....
a tip here, next time i brought up about BILLS jerseys, do not question ME ! i am right about BILLS uniforms at most of the time.
thanks !
marcus chmaj

Well ok then Mr. Buffalo Bill!!!

If your so good and not to be questioned, how come you didn't question the nameplate??? I said before teams are known to recycle jerseys and that his jersey was bogus in several areas. What is your point? Auction has ended....

[mchmaj]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

Well ok then Mr. Buffalo Bill!!!

If your so good and not to be questioned, how come you didn't question the nameplate??? I said before teams are known to recycle jerseys and that his jersey was bogus in several areas. What is your point? Auction has ended....

no need to mock me, u the one who didnt research enough... u brought up about champion logos u were wrong about that and i just correct your mistake about champion logos.... now about SMITH on back, i didnt even look at that, two things i looked at ... #1 is beacuse he always worn b.smith like everyone agreeed
#2 BILLS never run that long nameplate BUT only from STORE BROUGHT authentics. (bills team jerseys always has their nameplate run to fit the names), for example here, i posted picture of my 1993 kelly....
ur post about champion logos mislead some people so i wanted to prevent that to happen so i posted FACTS about BILLS with champion supply logos difference from 1993 n 1994


thanks
marcus

[G1X]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

Marcus,

I am by no means intending to question your Bills knowledge, but if I am reading post #3 correctly, you stated that the Bills wore the Champion logos on the sleeve stripes in 1993. Just so that we are absolutely clear and don't mislead or confuse anyone, the Champion logo can be found in several places on the sleeves of the 1993 jerseys.

Also, to further not mislead or confuse anyone about recycling jerseys, I will repeat one of my earlier posts in this thread. I underlined a few key words for emphasis.

Gentlemen!

I am not about to step into the middle of the argument of the legitimacy of this particular Bruce Smith jersey or whether the Bills did or did not "recycle" their 1993 jerseys into 1994.

HOWEVER, READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY AND WRITE IT DOWN AS GOSPEL. MOST NFL TEAMS HAVE HISTORICALLY RECYCLED JERSEYS FOR POSSIBLE GAME USE FROM ONE SEASON TO THE NEXT (OR EVEN SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD), AND THEY STILL DO IT ALTHOUGH PROBABLY NOT NEAR AS MUCH AS IN THE PAST. RECYCLING JERSEYS IS A FACT THAT IS VERIFIABLE IN PHOTOS AS WELL AS WITH EQUIPMENT MANAGERS AND COLLECTORS. IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS FACT, THEN YOU WILL HAVE MUCH ANXIETY IN TRYING TO COLLECT GAME-WORN FOOTBALL JERSEYS, ESPECIALLY OLDER JERSEYS.

Most teams have historically obtained a new set (or sets) of jerseys each year. However, previously issued jerseys are/were often kept for a variety of reasons (mainly to have replacements on hand). I hope this information is helpful.

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange

[mvandor]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

no need to mock me, u the one who didnt research enough... u brought up about champion logos u were wrong about that and i just correct your mistake about champion logos.... now about SMITH on back, i didnt even look at that, two things i looked at ... #1 is beacuse he always worn b.smith like everyone agreeed
#2 BILLS never run that long nameplate BUT only from STORE BROUGHT authentics. (bills team jerseys always has their nameplate run to fit the names), for example here, i posted picture of my 1993 kelly....
ur post about champion logos mislead some people so i wanted to prevent that to happen so i posted FACTS about BILLS with champion supply logos difference from 1993 n 1994


thanks
marcus

marcus, you bring this on yourself, between your arrogant post and your broken english. Most of us understand there are no perfect world's in identifying game use, far too many variables to lay down 100% rules most of the time.

[mchmaj]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

marcus, you bring this on yourself, between your arrogant post and your broken english. Most of us understand there are no perfect world's in identifying game use, far too many variables to lay down 100% rules most of the time.

was i arrogant ?? i dont think so....
there are some experts on this forum and they pointed out somethings about jerseys and other experts listens... but when i post something every time someone had to questioned me ... thas why i fed up ...sorry if anyone took this seriously ... i just knew alot about the BILLS jerseys in 80s and 90s than anyone else...
like i said before bills champion logo are in different locations on sleeeves BUT the style of champion logos itself ARE DIFFERENT from 1993 and 1994...
and yes, with BILLS current jerseys' style, they does recycle them often ....
next time i post something about BILLS, i will be right most of the time so please dont look at my english as weakness , its not my first language as everyone else here ...BUT i know my EYES are more active than anyone here beacuse you guys uses your ears everyday while my ears are useless !!! LOL
marcus chmaj

[XPFO]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

Well...I contacted the seller and let him know the problems and what the Mears number brings up in the system and his response was "That's nice I bought it in a Vintage Authentics auction about 9 months ago but lost the LOA for $800 or so...go look it up"

Another case of people not caring what they sell despite having the proof of the problems dangled in front of their face. I wonder how much the buyer this time is going to get screwed for.

I also let him know that VA is where a lot of questionably items get dumped and that Lampson is known as one of the shadiest aithenticators in the business....he won't care, just saying my peace.

[SuperMario66]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

was i arrogant ?? i dont think so....
there are some experts on this forum and they pointed out somethings about jerseys and other experts listens... but when i post something every time someone had to questioned me ... thas why i fed up ...sorry if anyone took this seriously ... i just knew alot about the BILLS jerseys in 80s and 90s than anyone else...
like i said before bills champion logo are in different locations on sleeeves BUT the style of champion logos itself ARE DIFFERENT from 1993 and 1994...
and yes, with BILLS current jerseys' style, they does recycle them often ....
next time i post something about BILLS, i will be right most of the time so please dont look at my english as weakness , its not my first language as everyone else here ...BUT i know my EYES are more active than anyone here beacuse you guys uses your ears everyday while my ears are useless !!! LOL
marcus chmaj

Until I see a letter from the Buffalo Bills equipment managers during that time stating that they "NEVER" recycle'd jersey's, I will question anyone. I appreciate your knowledge but the all knowing act on a forum board is pathetic. I was mearly trying to help with the conversation with the facts that I clearly stated in my previous posts.

In post #2 - I mentioned the nameplate that somehow escaped your vast Bills jersey knowledge. I then got the sarcasm and unjustified "godlike" answers to my posts from you - Mr. Buffalo Bill. I didn't come here to listen to smug people like you demean people, but to hopefully add to the various discussions here and also learn more myself from the other forum members. Good Day !

[mchmaj]

Re: BUFFALO BILLS Bruce Smith game jersey 1993 or 1994 ??? on ebay

Until I see a letter from the Buffalo Bills equipment managers during that time stating that they "NEVER" recycle'd jersey's, I will question anyone. I appreciate your knowledge but the all knowing act on a forum board is pathetic. I was mearly trying to help with the conversation with the facts that I clearly stated in my previous posts.

In post #2 - I mentioned the nameplate that somehow escaped your vast Bills jersey knowledge. I then got the sarcasm and unjustified "godlike" answers to my posts from you - Mr. Buffalo Bill. I didn't come here to listen to smug people like you demean people, but to hopefully add to the various discussions here and also learn more myself from the other forum members. Good Day !

i did not even pay attention to the nameplate beacuse its not even team's nameplate cut like i posted my KELLY
and u dont need to call me names , i did not call u anything or to anyone else , so pls respect ..... however i expressed my feeling about posting BILLS smith jersey and everyone questioned ME, and i know the bills uniform more than anyone else here. and u were being silly to say i need to see letter from the bills that they did not recycle the uniforms, HELLO ?? they does recycle their uniforms with current style BUT BETWEEN 1993 and 1994 I KNOW THEY DID NOT
i got better source of bills and research skills
have a great 4th of the july
thanks
marcus