Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - MLB Authenticated 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

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This jersey is a home white cool base worn by Pedro Martinez during the 2008 season and authenticated by MLB following the Mets game against the NY Yankees on June 29, 2008. Notably, Martinez did not pitch against the Yankees on 06/29 but the jersey was worn by Pedro in other 2008 games.

This jersey is a white pinstripe with script "Mets" across the front. Below the name "Mets" on the front of the jersey, as well as on the back of the jersey under the name "MARTINEZ", is the number 45. All are done in royal blue on orange tackle twill. The right sleeve has the Shea Stadium embroidered patch. The MLB hologram is located on the #5 on the back of the jersey. Inside the right front tail is the Majestic size 46 tag with the "+1.5 inch slv, Taper, +2 Length" flag tags. A beautiful jersey from a future Hall of Famer.

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[kingjammy24]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

maybe this one should have an asterisk as martinez didn't pitch on 6/29/08.

rudy.

[metsbats]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

Yes, Oliver Perez pitched on June 29th, 2008 verses the NY Yankees at Shea.

Pedro was in the dugout wearing this jersey and the Mets were playing the Yankees during that game. Given the definition of "game used" the description is technically correct.

I'm sure the Steiner COA doesn't say he pitched that game.

David

[metsbats]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

Yes, Oliver Perez pitched on June 29th, 2008 verses the NY Yankees at Shea.

Pedro was in the dugout wearing this jersey and the Mets were playing the Yankees during that game. Given the definition of "game used" the description is technically correct.

I'm sure the Steiner COA doesn't say he pitched that game.

David

"game used" that is as defined by MLB.

[metsbats]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

Mets COA not Steiner too.

[kingjammy24]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

david

everything you say is true. i didn't mean to imply it's not "game used".
however, at the same time, a note about pedro not actually pitching is important in regards to collectability and value.

at first glance, when a jersey is billed as a pedro martinez gamer from a certain date, i think the implication is that pedro actually pitched in it. for both collectibility and value, there's a big difference between a pedro "dugout" jersey and an actual jersey he pitched in. both clemens and martinez used different styles of jerseys depending on whether they were pitching or if it was their day off. i'd hate for someone to purchase this jersey under the assumption that it's a martinez "pitching jersey", pay the corresponding price, and believe that he faced down the yankees in it and then realize it's not and he didn't.

rudy.

[metsbats]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

Rudy,

I agree completely with you on that. Unless someone does the homework to check to see if Pedro pitched that day it's misleading to pinpoint a pitchers jersey to a particular game.

Not sure if the fact that he sat in the dugout and watched the Mets play the Yankees makes it more valuable to someone.

Regarding the custom sleeve Pedro wore in past years I'm not sure if i've seen this custom tailoring on his jerseys this year (I could be wrong).

I checked Getty and didn't see the typical widen sleeve under the armpit .

The attached photo was taken this year in Pittsburgh.

David

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

Hey Guys,

This item was consigned to us directly from the NY Mets. I checked the verbiage on the LOA and it does state the following:

"This letter from the New York Mets certifies the authenticity of the accompanying game used Pedro Martinez jersey......This Pinstripe jersey was worn during the New York Mets vs. New York Yankees game at Shea Stadium on June 29th, 2008 and was authenticated by a representative of Major League Baseball."

I know when I spoke directly with my contact at the Mets he did mention that some jerseys were worn in games in addition to the ones listed on the LOA. I will check with him on Monday to see if he has any more information on this jersey. If I receive any more information I will post it here as well as in the description. Further, if there is nothing definitive regarding the jersey being worn in any other games I will update that information in the description as well.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

david

everything you say is true. i didn't mean to imply it's not "game used".
however, at the same time, a note about pedro not actually pitching is important in regards to collectability and value.


rudy.

I agree with Rudy that the extra bit of disclosure should have been done and is what will set this auction apart from all others.

some jerseys were worn in games in addition to the ones listed on the LOA

Chris, that would make sense unless it was a throwback or Opening Day or Special Jersey that it could have been for more than 1 game. A MLB authenticator told me that they mark the jerseys as of the day it came off of the players back so it is possible it was worn for more than 1 game. The same holds true for bats as it is the day the authenticator is given the bat.

[metsbats]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

I think the Mets attempted to market the jersey as worn during the last subway series game at Shea verses the Yankees and went about it the wrong way by stating it used verses the Yankess on 6/29/2008.

Additionally they should note it in the COA that he didn't pitch that game but the jersey was worn in attendance of the game.

David

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

Again, I will make a call on Monday to my Mets contact to find out any additional information that might be relevant and provide it in the description.

One other quick point regarding disclosure. There isn't anything we weren't trying to disclose. The description was based of what was provided to us by the Mets and we are glad the system has identified a question worth answering. We created the format for our auctions so potential buyers can ask any and all questions they like to make sure they have all the information they need to make informed decisions about the items they purchase. We designed the system so that every question can be answered and, as such, you can tell empirically that there isn't anything we are not trying to disclose. If we were, we certainly wouldn't allow a public forum to ask questions about the items in our auction.

As is always the case, we will follow-up with any pertinent information we find and we will add it to the description. Personally, I think it shows that the system is working.

[jppopma]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

This may just be another example of MLB authentication requirements to only authenticate what they see in person. It is likely just the wording of the authenticator that denotes that HE saw the jersey worn by Pedro on that date, likely the date it was authenticated. Chances are that Pedro had worn that jersey for the 1/2 of the season, the previous month, week, series, ect. For this being a normal game, I do not see where they would have a jersey issued for just that one game and authenticated. If they are looking to capitalize on the price of single game used jerseys, I would think they would make sure it wa s agame that he actually pitched in.

Hopefully Chris gets the answer from the team on this. He is doing a great job of responding and looking into the issues brought up and its nice that its done in public, rather than the other auction houses who hide all of the questions.

[metsbats]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

This may just be another example of MLB authentication requirements to only authenticate what they see in person. It is likely just the wording of the authenticator that denotes that HE saw the jersey worn by Pedro on that date, likely the date it was authenticated. Chances are that Pedro had worn that jersey for the 1/2 of the season, the previous month, week, series, ect. For this being a normal game, I do not see where they would have a jersey issued for just that one game and authenticated. If they are looking to capitalize on the price of single game used jerseys, I would think they would make sure it wa s agame that he actually pitched in.

Hopefully Chris gets the answer from the team on this. He is doing a great job of responding and looking into the issues brought up and its nice that its done in public, rather than the other auction houses who hide all of the questions.

I agree that the jersey was most likely worn for the first half. The pinstripe variation is the least used of the Mets uniforms and typically on weekend games. Unless it was a single game variation of a jersey like the Los Mets or Jackie Robinson jerseys I doubt the Mets would single out this pinstripe jersey for a single game especially one which he didn't pitch.

I think you hit it on the head when you said MLB authenticated based on the fact that they collected it on 6/29 after the Yankee game. I still however think they wanted to use the Subway series angle on the jersey to make it more marketable.

David

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: Pedro Martinez 2008 Home Game Worn Cool Base Jersey - Worn 6/29/08 vs. NY Yankees (NY Mets LOA)

Hello Everyone,

I did speak with my Mets contact a short while ago and he did confirm the jersey was worn in other games but was collected after the game with the Yankees on the June 29th. In fact, he said that is the case with most jerseys as they aren't usually worn for only one game unless it is some special event, etc.

In this case, it appears the use of the term "game used" is appropriate and I will update the description after verifying the verbiage with my Mets contact to make sure it is an accurate reflection of the jersey's history.