Something's Fishy with CSI game used bats!

[cards-bats]

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Now I know why the Cardinals can charge $500 for a Aaron Miles game used bat. I give up!

[richpick]

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Bobby,

Good work and what a keen eye. Thanks for the heads up. It will be interesting to see what CSI has to say. Is anyone going to contact them?

Richard

[kingjammy24]

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i put all the barrels together so you can see them side-by-side.



i'm no bat expert but that looks like some really wacky stuff.

rudy.

[lund6771]

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i guess a leopard never does change his spots

[gameused]

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Bobby,

Good work and what a keen eye. Thanks for the heads up. It will be interesting to see what CSI has to say. Is anyone going to contact them?

Richard

Richard,

There were many more bats that I seen from CSI on ebay with similar ballmarks before I started saving the ebay auction links from earlier this year.

As far as contacting Ron from CSI, I think he already found out about this post, check the CSI link from my earlier post for the Arod bat he had listed on his website, he took down the listing sometime today.

Maybe Ron should Change his company name from California Sports Investments to "Completely Shady Inventory"

Bobby

[cigarman44]

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Yeah those look pretty bad. It looks like they bunted about 30 ab's in a row with those bats. The speed of the ball with the swinging of the bat makes a much larger ball impression. That's why I buy most 80% of my bats from people on the board (mostly Jeff ). Before I got into this I thought if you had a high eBay rating you must be trustworthy. It's a good thing I found this site. Sure enough I'd have a bunch of fakes.

[Eric]

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Who contacted Ron about these issues?
Eric

[eGameUsed]

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Unfortunately, I purchased that black Arod bat yesterday from Ron. That is likely why it came down off the site. He probably doesn't know, but I will be evaluating the bat once received at it should have shipped yesterday.

Thanks,

[bigjimsguitars]

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While I'm new to this forum, I started collecting GU a long time ago and can remember selling some nice bats to Ron, one being a GU Piazza Minor League bat and an Eddie Murray bat from the Dodgers and found him to be honest and paid me fairly for both items.

Note: I recently rekindled my passion for collecting again so many of the veterans here don't know me, but back in the late 80 to mid 90's I was doing this and back then it was a whole bunch more level of a playing field as the average joe (like me) was able to get honest stuff. I'm sure that there were many fakes being dealt back then, but I was able to get my stuff directly from the likes of the Dodgers, Angels, and various minor league teams on a regular basis. Moreover, there were many Legit Dealers who had the goods who advertised in the SCD.


I also recently acquired a Dodgers GU Jersey from him that I later confirmed as being the real deal from the actual player who wore it (and signed it for me).

There has to be a plausible explanation for all of this as a good seed doesn't usually go bad. It would be nice if gets wind of this thread and responds.

[kingjammy24]

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bigjimsguitars

i guess you were away from the hobby for awhile but back in 2005, ron publically admitted to shill bidding on ebay. the "good seed" did indeed go bad. here's his apology:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/379976/thread/1120867150/

the last couple of pages in this thread have a discussion about it:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=8955

i remember once discussing a will clark jersey with ron. i was earnestly trying to ascertain its legitimacy and asking many questions. i was seriously interested in purchasing it. ron said it was good as he "wouldn't risk his reputation on a $300 jersey". but apparently he'd risk it to fraudulently jack up the prices on his auction items? listening to ron talk about how he "wouldn't risk his reputation" after he'd already risked it (and lost) was the best joke i'd heard that month.

anyway, in general, most scamsters mix crap in with the good stuff. it makes it harder to spot the bad stuff and makes the entire operation look better. if it were all crap, it'd be too obvious right? instead, you do a few legit signings, have your photo taken with some athletes, and everyone thinks you've got connections and all of your stuff is legit. sell some legit pieces and you get people talking about how your stuff is good and it gives you the luxury of pawning off garbage based purely on the reputation of your good stuff. even the worst scamsters i know offer some good pieces. i've never seen anyone stupid enough to offer nothing but 100% garbage.

rudy.

[3arod13]

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It amazes me, and sickens me, reading so many of these type threads.

It really bothers me to see so many sports fans and collectors spending their hard earned dollars wanting to own a piece of their favorite player, and not knowing that people like these are selling them fakes. Is it just that there isn't really enough game used stuff out there to satisify all fans and collectors, or is it just simple GREED!

Why can't people just make a good and honest living!

I'm getting so sick of reading the stuff in these threads. For those of you out there reading this, and doing this, STOP!

Regards, Tony

[3arod13]

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It also really bothers me that when sellers of fakes are made aware that the item is fake, they still continue to ignore the warnings and sell their item (which I'm sure many know they're selling fakes, so I don't see why they would listen anyway).

Are there any websites where collectors can go to find a list of people and/or companies who are doing this? Might be helpful.

[3arod13]

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It also really bothers me that when sellers of fakes are made aware that the item is fake, they still continue to ignore the warnings and sell their item (which I'm sure many know they're selling fakes, so I don't see why they would listen anyway).

Are there any websites where collectors can go to find a list of people and/or companies who are doing this? Might be helpful.

In the Norfolk, Virginia area, we have what we call "OFF LIMITS LIST." The Admiral in our area will be notified of those business' in our community who are ripping off our Sailors, or even just bad places to stay away from, and the Admiral sends out a list to all military commands letting them know that these places are "OFF LIMITS" to all military personnel.

Just a thought.

Regards, Tony

[bigtime59]

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The members of the Orioles Hangout forum, many of whom routinely excoriate Paul Bako as the worst player ever to have worn an Orioles uniform, would be highly amused at the prospect of someone faking his game used bats...

Mark
bigtime39@aol.com

[bigjimsguitars]

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All I can say is wow, times and people do change and if what I read here, one guy that I thought was a straight arrow. I'm lucky that what I got turned out to be jake.

I can't speak for Ron and hope he comes forward and speaks for himself and explains his side of this. But after reading his apology in 2005, I would bet we will not here from him.