The Response I got from X Bats

[b.heagy]

Re: The Response I got from X Bats

Obviously the person you engaged with has a negative attitude and is probably unhappy with their job anyway. I would not condemn the company for one persons negative outlook. I would simply go to the higher authority and explain the situtation and see if they will rectify it. If they don't then I would certainly cease all business concerning that company. I would definatly give the "higher ups" of the company a chance to see what the problem is and let them have a chance to resolve it. Just my 2 cents.

[bigjimsguitars]

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Gameused:

The Gagne I have also has the same labeling as your Carl Crawford, but per the person who emailed me and in his own words, 99% of the stuff is fake....

The WS bats do not say either Pro or Trophy on them and are exactly the same as what the players got....

Their wording to you was very, tell. tale. "We can Tell" and that's all that matters to them.

It would have been less time consuming to have provided me or anyone with a simple answer to my simple question as opposed to saying gee, we only give that info to people who actually buy bats from us....so if I buy a bat from them the information then becomes readily available?

How in the heck did they know I didn't buy a bat from them before they responded? Profits before ethics and integrity is their motto!

[bigjimsguitars]

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Obviously the person you engaged with has a negative attitude and is probably unhappy with their job anyway. I would not condemn the company for one persons negative outlook. I would simply go to the higher authority and explain the situtation and see if they will rectify it. If they don't then I would certainly cease all business concerning that company. I would definatly give the "higher ups" of the company a chance to see what the problem is and let them have a chance to resolve it. Just my 2 cents.

Bill,

That's what I intend on doing tomorrow...but it sure appears that they just don't care and to me that is very sad.

[gameused]

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Gameused:

The Gagne I have also has the same labeling as your Carl Crawford, but per the person who emailed me and in his own words, 99% of the stuff is fake....

The WS bats do not say either Pro or Trophy on them and are exactly the same as what the players got....

Their wording to you was very, tell. tale. "We can Tell" and that's all that matters to them.

It would have been less time consuming to have provided me or anyone with a simple answer to my simple question as opposed to saying gee, we only give that info to people who actually buy bats from us....so if I buy a bat from them the information then becomes readily available?

How in the heck did they know I didn't buy a bat from them before they responded? Profits before ethics and integrity is their motto!

The Crawford bat was listed on JT Sports website and is not my bat.

I can tell for a fact that pro players X-bats don't have the team name engraved on the barrel. X-bats have never done this with pro player bats in the past and for this years World Series. That's one way to distinguish a pro player bat from a store model regardless of Pro trophy or Pro maple!

So tell me how do you know that the W.S. model bats on the X-bat website are indeed the same model the Pro Players got, what evidence to you have to back this up?

As far a the experience you had with customer service, I'm not going to get into that as they have been helpful and very fast in answering any questions I have asked.

Bobby

[bigjimsguitars]

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The Crawford bat was listed on JT Sports website and is not my bat.

I can tell for a fact that pro players X-bats don't have the team name engraved on the barrel. X-bats have never done this with pro player bats in the past and for this years World Series. That's one way to distinguish a pro player bat from a store model regardless of Pro trophy or Pro maple!

So tell me how do you know that the W.S. model bats on the X-bat website are indeed the same model the Pro Players got, what evidence to you have to back this up?

As far a the experience you had with customer service, I'm not going to get into that as they have been helpful and very fast in answering any questions I have asked.

Bobby

Bobby,

Are you a customer of X Bats? If so, maybe they treat you differently.

Did you read their responses to me?

No I don't have any proof of what the 2007 actual Game Used WS Bats look like...but being WS Bats I would tend to think that they would have engraved the team name to commemorate the fact!

You are right, they don't put team names on the regular Pro Player ordered bats and that is exactly why I inquired to them to try to get a time line as to when Eric may have ordered a unstained, model 16 that is 33.5" and 31.5oz so I could attempt to photo match it...

I'm glad that your experience was better than mine, but it sounded like you were inquiring on an item they were trying to sell and not something already sold.

[tym]

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On my exchange with XBats

1) I have never purchased anything from them direct.
2) They answered all my questions, over 3-4 emails worth of exchange.
3) the Item I bought was not being offered by them for sale.
4) I was able to find images that supported their info (though they did not provide the images, S.F. Giants did)

All in all I was happy with they way they treated me and got my questions answered.

Regards,
Ty

[gameused]

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Bobby,

Are you a customer of X Bats? If so, maybe they treat you differently.

Did you read their responses to me?

No I don't have any proof of what the 2007 actual Game Used WS Bats look like...but being WS Bats I would tend to think that they would have engraved the team name to commemorate the fact!

You are right, they don't put team names on the regular Pro Player ordered bats and that is exactly why I inquired to them to try to get a time line as to when Eric may have ordered a unstained, model 16 that is 33.5" and 31.5oz so I could attempt to photo match it...

I'm glad that your experience was better than mine, but it sounded like you were inquiring on an item they were trying to sell and not something already sold.

I have never been a customer of X-bats.

You can think all you like but I suggest before you make a statement back it up with proof. Louisville Slugger makes W.S. bats for pro players and they do not put the team name of the barrel, just like X-bats.

As far as my experience with X-bats, I have inquired about items already sold and have always gotten a helpful response.

[bigjimsguitars]

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Look, I already had a bad experience with them, obviously you haven't taken the time to read their emailed responses to me....

as far as ws bats and team names:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8498&d=1194709401

[gameused]

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Like I said my experience with X-bats has been great. Just because your was not, I don't think you can go ahead and make false claims on their W.S. bats being sold on their website as the same as pro player bats being used in the 07 W.S.

That numbered Upper Deck Pujols bat your referring too, come on......that's clearly a store model bat!

[tym]

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I read your thread, beginning to end. I am trying to say is.....

"A single experience, with single employee of a company does not represent how the company over all treats people or customers that contact them."

If I were you I would complain to the company powers that be and then, if the result is the same experience avoid their products and share that experience.

My experience was different than yours, I would encourage people to contact the bat manufactures, my son plays little league, I am even considering getting him a bat based on the good experience I had with them. They should consider that, as everybody is a potential customer.

Collectors look closely at bat quality, I have had other dads ask me if I think there are quality differences between manufactures....Why do they want to piss all over the collectors, when they could influence sales too.

Sorry your experience was a bad one.

Regards,
Ty

[bigjimsguitars]

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Like I said my experience with X-bats has been great. Just because your was not, I don't think you can go ahead and make false claims on their W.S. bats being sold on their website as the same as pro player bats being used in the 07 W.S.

That numbered Upper Deck Pujols bat your referring too, come on......that's clearly a store model bat!

I guess the pedroia and youkulis are as well!

Look I don't want to engage in a pissing match about it, but you certainly are welcome to buy some WS Bat's from X Bats and know for sure that they really are Team/Game bats!!!!

For the record, Brian Borsch also got the same type of response that I did...

I will give X Bats a call and discuss what happened to hopefully to someone in management and let them know what transpired...maybe there is a loose cannon working for them who needs to get counselled.

[gameused]

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I guess the pedroia and youkulis are as well!

Look I don't want to engage in a pissing match about it, but you certainly are welcome to buy some WS Bat's from X Bats and know for sure that they really are Team/Game bats!!!!

For the record, Brian Borsch also got the same type of response that I did...

I will give X Bats a call and discuss what happened to hopefully to someone in management and let them know what transpired...maybe there is a loose cannon working for them who needs to get counselled.

allStarslus, made no mention that the Pedroia or the Youkilis bats in the photos were game used from the 2007 W.S.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=11854&page=3

I dont like pissing matches also, but in my opininon you need to speak from fact, not fantasy!

[bigjimsguitars]

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http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8216&d=1193579007

[bigjimsguitars]

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http://cgi.ebay.com/DAVID-ORTIZ-GAME-USED-AUTOGRAPHED-04-WORLD-SERIES-BAT_W0QQitemZ130167491937QQihZ003QQcategoryZ27261QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MIKE-LOWELL-SIGNED-2007-GAME-USED-WORLD-SERIES-BAT_W0QQitemZ120180012422QQihZ002QQcategoryZ60596QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Which one or is both real or are both fake?

Look I'm not an expert on bats and certainly not WS bats...

The thread wasn't about WS BATS and was only embued by Gameused to bolster his position that he got good service from X Bats, good for him...I got just the opposite and there is no excuse for it.

I didn't post to create get into an argument, but I certainly wouldn't be putting dowm my money on a X Bats WS Bat that is said to be game used when you consider you can order them with apparently no differences.

The response Gameused should have got from the horses mouth would have been, the real ones don't have the team name on them as that seems to be the nexus of Gameused argument.

I don't think there is comformity as it appears that WS bats can come with or without the teams name on them from different makers and from the same makers.

It would be nice if X Bats instead of saying to me that since I'm not a paying customer to take a hike and them to denegrate me because I'm a Game Used afficianato and that we are all morons because most of the stuff is fake anyway...

Yeah, I must be living in a fantasy as Gameused said and haven't a clus to the real facts.

[allstarsplus]

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allStarslus, made no mention that the Pedroia or the Youkilis bats in the photos were game used from the 2007 W.S.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=11854&page=3

I dont like pissing matches also, but in my opininon you need to speak from fact, not fantasy!

You are correct that I made no mention, but I will know when the holograms show up but doubt they were WS as they were sold as "game used" with no mention of WS use. I am sure they were used at the end of the season and can only hope that they saw ALDS, ALCS or WS.

Hope that helps. Andrew