Another Questionable Arod from Zanebats

[Vintagedeputy]

Re: Another Questionable Arod from Zanebats

If you are so confident that it could be a gamer it should be a breeze to come up with some photo proof of Arod using a blond bat over the past year. I have seen people here photo proof an item in 5 minutes or less. Getty is full of photos.

If its so easy, YOU find the photo. You are the one intent on discrediting Zane, not me.

[broome1000]

Re: Another Questionable Arod from Zanebats

Regarding the photo that was posted. I see a lot of pine tar on that bat and none on zane's bat. Here is a photo from this year of Arod getting ready to take batting practice. Notice there is no pine tar on the batting practice bat also. End of story. This forum used to be about helping people. Now it seems people could care less about who gets hurt as long as their buddy Zane isn't tarnished.
Here is the link.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05072008/sports/yankees/a_rod_back_in_a_week_109838.htm

[metsbats]

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I just posted the photo for reference. Would I buy the G174 Zane has on ebay. Probably not because it's not typically the model or color of the bat that Arod uses the majority of the time in games. Did he use blonde bats during games? The photo and corresponding thread demonstrates he did or may in the future. Could it have been an Old Hickory and not a HB? Yes. The thread even has a photo of him using a Rawlings bat.

Because of the photographic evidence i don't think Zane was being deceptive. However everyone has the right to their opinions and intepretations.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ead.php?t=7844&

Did anyone even reach out to Zane before posting on this thread to question the bat?

-David

[R. C. Walker]

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People who think Game Used Collecting is an exact science have a lot to learn.

Looking through Getty’s for absolute evidence is ridiculous.

They have gaps of up to and over 7 days - Yes, even the Yankees. Images from their site are not daily nor do they cover an entire series. It is also common to have erroneous dates. Most sequences only cover ONE at bat of a player. What happens if a player uses a purple bat within a weeks period Getty has no images? DISASTER!

Now, back to the regularly scheduled bickering . . .

[metsbats]

Re: Another Questionable Arod from Zanebats

People who think Game Used Collecting is an exact science have a lot to learn.

Looking through Getty’s for absolute evidence is ridiculous.

They have gaps of up to and over 7 days - Yes, even the Yankees. Images from their site are not daily nor do they cover an entire series. It is also common to have erroneous dates. Most sequences only cover ONE at bat of a player. What happens if a player uses a purple bat within a weeks period Getty has no images? DISASTER!

Now, back to the regularly scheduled bickering . . .

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Danny899]

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Since when is someone's knowledge or right to question based on how many posts they have here on this forum? There are guys here with 100's of posts, many of which are completely useless. Haven't you met people in life with no brains that do an awful lot of talking? Someone thinks Zane's bats are good and someone thinks they are not, both parties bring up valid points. Me personally, I've purchased several items from Zane that I'm very happy with. But I wouldn't disregard someone's displeasure or questioning because he hasn't posted a thousand times here.

[allstarsplus]

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MLB standards account for the term game used to include BP bats.

Jim is 100% correct on the definition of Game Used. The great thing about the Forum is that ARod's bats blonde/black LS have been discussed so many times.

That blonde LS you refer to that is listed by Zane looks like a great bat. I have owned blonde and black LS of ARod's and if given the same game use would pay much more for a black LS, but that is just me.

Jim "Vintagedeputy" is among many that give his time and expertise on this Forum free of charge. I know Jim and he is fair. He has his opinions and I think if we all give our opinions and keep an open mind we will get more accomplished as RC Walker has pointed out with "exact science". So true.

With all that said, there are plenty of Posts about Zane in the past years and I for one wish he would respond to them, but he is free to do whatever he wants I guess.

This old Post I bring to light and no pun intended about the word "LIGHT" shows very questionable bats in the past.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/37997...n+in+the+Hobby--

This was a direct quote from that Post from Dan Derleth

As a Ripken collector I KNOW that Cal NEVER used a 33" bat. When I questioned Burns on the legitimacy of the bat, ie. specifically is this a game used Ripken bat or a game bat used by Cal Ripken, he skirted the question and basically said, you make your own judgment.

I did not think this was a professional attitude. Thoughts from other members?????

From Soxwin

Zane, is the selling of Mizuno bats which are claimed to be " from the rack" for players as Bernie Williams ( you ever see him swing anything ofther than Rawlings) Glaus, Ichiro Piazza and others. I would not touch a Mizuno bat for anything. Rob from Authentic Gamers has mentions bad Mizuno Puljos bats in his Water Cooler Section.

[BMH]

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Back to the blonde bats of Arod. I was just reminded by another thread in here that Arod used to order blonde bats from us besides the G174. His own model the R228. I'm seeing him in a week or two so I'll put this to rest by asking if he's used any of his blonde bats in a game. Will that work for everybody?

[Vintagedeputy]

Re: Another Questionable Arod from Zanebats

Back to the blonde bats of Arod. I was just reminded by another thread in here that Arod used to order blonde bats from us besides the G174. His own model the R228. I'm seeing him in a week or two so I'll put this to rest by asking if he's used any of his blonde bats in a game. Will that work for everybody?

BMH - that is a good idea, thank you. There is always the possibility though that he may or not recall exactly. We know sometimes the players dont always remember the details....but I say, it cant hurt.

ps- I have a question for you that I'll send in a pm, if you dont mind.

Jim

[jetersbatboy]

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Here is a picture of a blonde LS game used bat singed by Arod as game used

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2004/628.html

[allstarsplus]

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With all that said, there are plenty of Posts about Zane in the past years and I for one wish he would respond to them, but he is free to do whatever he wants I guess.

I got off the phone with Zane Burns about an hour ago. He left me a message and I called him back.

I applaud him for calling me to discuss my Post, and he told me he appreciated that I am a "real" person who doesn't hide behind the internet which seems to be a recurring theme in the world of the internet and the anonymous nature of it.

The conversation lasted almost 32 minutes so we had time to discuss an old issue of Pujols Mizuno bats which he said he would buy back from me which is as genuine an offer as someone can make in this business and I appreciate that.

He told me a lot about what he does in the business and I told him I went over his current eBay inventory and like I said in my Post about his ARod bats they looked good to me and I told him he had many nice bats in his eBay inventory.

Lastly, I strongly suggested that he should Post on the Forum mainly to share his vast knowledge of Game Used Bats. Hopefully he will!

[SSB15]

Re: Another Questionable Arod from Zanebats

I have purchased a lot of bats from Zane. I have always found him to be honest. I do not have a problem buying bats from him and plan to do so in the future.

With regards to price of the bat, that is a personal issue.

Scott

[SkubeBats]

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Zane has relisted this AROD bat again. But this time he say's it's from spring training and it was obtained from a batboy. Now it doesn't mention being used in batting practice or in a game. How many times can he change the discription of this bat. What do you guys think of this situation. The bat is listed on ebay again here is the listing number(#320268504679). Look at this listing and look at the second post on here with a link to the first time it was listed.
Thanks

[allstarsplus]

Re: Another Questionable Arod from Zanebats

MLB has stated that game used can be used in BP or in a game. I believe Spring Training is also considered game used.

I applaud Zane for amending the description with the additional info to the auction so potential bidders have the whole story.