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  • BMH
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    Thomecollector:
    I'm not allowed to give out full records of players. It's against company policy. If you're looking for a particular bat I can help out but it is still frowned upon by my work.


    MLB and their team met with us today to go over the new rules for making bats and how to apply them. We spent the first 3 hours going over the rules and a 75 page report they conducted on the broken bats and how they affected us. It was pretty amazing, after they explained it I felt much better about going into the 2009 season. Though it's going to be weird seeing half dip bats with black spots on the handles...

    It's also been decided they are going to leave Ash alone to our relief. There weren't enough multiple piece failures to address. Out of the 2200 bats collected, 67 that broke in multiple pieces were Ash.

    Oh, I believe they will not be collecting bats this coming season (lack of funding) so you all should be able to get bats easier this year.

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  • matt
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    Brian - Thanks for the help once again. It will be great if you guys add dates to the bottom of the bats. It will certainly avoid dating questions from guys like me. Hope it works out.

    Matt

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  • thomecollector
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    Brian,
    Sorry to bother you. But, Is there a way that I can get a copy of the records for Jim Thome ? Are they available in a book ? Plmk. Thanks in advance for your time. Roger

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  • BMH
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    Oh, that is No finish.

    That explains the foil not sticking very well, it never does. The foil holds better on lacquer.

    Your bat is either from Oct. of 2005 or January of 2006.

    That is another thing you all won't have to worry about too. I started playing around with stamping the date on the knobs of bats today. I still can't decide if I'm going to have them do it before or after paint. Of course on Maple it won't matter since they will all be clear or no finish. It will read like this: 12178. Nothing spectacular but it will get us in compliance.

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  • matt
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    Brian - Here is the mystery Pedroia bat:



    If you have any idea as to what vintage year this is, I would appreciate it, but thanks for the guidance you have already given. I was hoping this was from after his big league call-up given it had the "Red Sox" naming, but that sounds incorrect now. The branding is super thin and that bat seems unfinished with a very deep cup with very rough edges if that helps.

    Your commentary about the new Maple rules is very interesting too.

    Matt

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  • BMH
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    Honestly I'd have to see the bat to tell you what type of branding it is.

    Oh, he ordered 36 Gwynn finish(half black) bats in 2008. For 2009 that will be the only black finish he's allowed to order in Maple thanks to the new rules. No more full dip black bats. Actually if you read the rules it doesn't make a difference between Ash and Maple so they all have to be half dip. We will see...

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  • matt
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    Brian -

    Thanks for the info. I guess the gist of it is that Maccamania's and my blonde 33 inch c243's could be from anytime between 2004 to late 2007 when he signed w/ H&B and started getting signature bats instead of the block letter versions we have.

    Pardon my ignorance on foil stamping, but it seemed like this blonde one had a far lighter printing than my black M9's. I think he just knocked the foil off it.

    Thanks for being so generous with your knowledge. Enjoy the brief respite from the season.

    Matt

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  • kellsox
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    BMH
    How many 2 tone Gwynn finish M9s did he order this year?
    kelly

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  • BMH
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    I don't quite understand what you mean by correct size? He orders both 33in. and 33.5in. That probably doesn't help you much, I know the answer I'm about to give you will make it worse.


    These are orders for blonde C243's, I left off the black ones.

    2004 = 9
    2005 = 20
    2006 = 30
    2007 = 9
    2008 = 6

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  • maccamania
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    Originally posted by BMH
    It is a good time of year to be off, in fact I'm off the rest of the year. Well, I do have to go in Friday for MLB's training on how they want the maple produced. It should be interesting since none of their ideas have been tested in the Majors. But, that's another story. It's nice to be off since I'm not allowed to take too many days off before November.

    Anyway, I'm puzzled by your question on foil stamping. We've always foil stamped the end brand and MLB logo on the back of the bats. We did go to stickers for the CB a few years back.
    Brian,
    thank you kindly for taking time on your vacation to help us. Could you please help us with the time frame on Pedroia's 33" C243 bats, when were they ordered & is 33" the correct size....Happy Holidays Brian !!!

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  • BMH
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    It is a good time of year to be off, in fact I'm off the rest of the year. Well, I do have to go in Friday for MLB's training on how they want the maple produced. It should be interesting since none of their ideas have been tested in the Majors. But, that's another story. It's nice to be off since I'm not allowed to take too many days off before November.

    Anyway, I'm puzzled by your question on foil stamping. We've always foil stamped the end brand and MLB logo on the back of the bats. We did go to stickers for the CB a few years back.

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  • maccamania
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    Originally posted by matt
    Mac - I just got the bat today and it is indeed 33 inches long and has some good pine tar on it. Pedroia's name and "Boston Red Sox" is foil stamped. Same as yours? From Brian's earlier guidance that Pedey stopped ordering 33 inch bats in 2006, I am thinking this is from that year or earlier. Perhaps the foil stamping on M9s stopped earlier than 2006.

    I am still wondering if they would have the "Red Sox" nameplate on a pawsox bat. I am hoping that this only gets added when a player gets called up, so maybe these bats (yours and mine) are from his 2006 call-up. Could also be an Arizona Fall League bat from 2006.

    Any other info you have found? My guess is that Brian is enjoying some well-deserved time off, so has not responded to these questions.

    Anyone else know when foil stamping stopped on M9's and whether a AAA player gets bats with the Major League team name?

    Matt
    Matt,
    Mine Pedroia has #64 on knob and top with lots of pine tar, also has steiner & mlb holos. I had a blond S318 with #64 on both ends which was 33 1/2 " which I tracked down to Sept 06 and he was called up Aug 06. Of course the MLB database is not updated yet, so I can not date the bat as of yet.I will keep you updated.....

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  • matt
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    Mac - I just got the bat today and it is indeed 33 inches long and has some good pine tar on it. Pedroia's name and "Boston Red Sox" is foil stamped. Same as yours? From Brian's earlier guidance that Pedey stopped ordering 33 inch bats in 2006, I am thinking this is from that year or earlier. Perhaps the foil stamping on M9s stopped earlier than 2006.

    I am still wondering if they would have the "Red Sox" nameplate on a pawsox bat. I am hoping that this only gets added when a player gets called up, so maybe these bats (yours and mine) are from his 2006 call-up. Could also be an Arizona Fall League bat from 2006.

    Any other info you have found? My guess is that Brian is enjoying some well-deserved time off, so has not responded to these questions.

    Anyone else know when foil stamping stopped on M9's and whether a AAA player gets bats with the Major League team name?

    Matt

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  • maccamania
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    Originally posted by matt
    I am also interesed in this question as I bought this Blonde Pedroia M9 c243 on ebay and want to understand what the heck it is. I see he used a few in april 2007 and possibly thru 2006 and then switched to black m9's.



    Thanks,
    Matt
    Matt,
    just checking back to see if you reveived your Pedroia C243 yet and did it measure 33" like mine......

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  • kellsox
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    Since this thread has been revived, I was still wondering the amount of Pedroia Gwynn finish bats that were ordered in 08. Thanks in advance.
    Kelly

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