I Sold A Fake Kobe Bryant GU Jersey

[34swtns]

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What is it with trsent always posting people's full names on the board every time he replies to a post where his name is mentioned?

Is that meant to intimidate or show how web-savvy you are that you can derive someone's actual name from what they've posted.

Let me say that I'm not impressed and I doubt that anyone is intimidated.
Stop doing it. You are only elevating your image on this board as that of a paranoid hothead.

Dude, get over yourself.

Richard L. Moore
(saved you the time, there)

[DoctorLoomis]

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Wow...you guys have really chopped me up on here! I will do my best...even though I have nothing to prove to any of you....to answer all your questions.

First of all I like to wear my gamers. I have owned 2 Manning gamers in the past...and now own another one...and I wore them often. I was wearing one in Caesars Palace during the Super Bowl two years ago.

In response to Trsent..I know exactly what you mean. I am a professional poker player. I am in Bellagio 50-60 hrs a week. Having 5 dimes in my pocket at any given time is status quo. Furthermore, meeting someone who has 5K in their pocket is also commonplace.

I had the LOA with me...in my car actually. I took it with me for the exact purpose of being able to produce it in case someone wanted to buy the jersey. Obviously you guys arent underdstanding that Las Vegas is THE place to showcase an item such as a Kobe gamer if you are looking to sell it. If I were walking down the street in Omaha, Nebraska it would be a different story.

For those of you that believe my story is made up, I could care less. To me wearing a gamer is fun. I enjoy showing the nice game jerseys that I have and it makes great conversation at the poker table.

Finally...someone asked how it went from game used to then non game used. The answer is.....I found an EXPERT on LA Lakers GU equipment. We spoke on the phone a couple of times. He informed me that Bryant did NOT...ever...at any time...wear a size 50 jersey in the year specified on my supposed gamer. Getty images further validated his claim. If my memory serves me correctly he wore a 56.

So theres the story....100% true. As the famous Jack Palance used to say...."believe it....or not".

[dcrules01]

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Joel I agree but I think there is a difference if you paid say $200 for a Gamer to wear and say $1500..Rudy also had some good points about wearing a Gamer over the course of time that had no wear on it and then wearing say a Football Gamer that was worn for 1 game sells for $200 the owner wears it every weekend for tackle football over the course of a football season then washes it but it has dirt stains grass stains rips snags his wife breaks out the sewing machine to sew up some tears...And then he resells it as a Gamer...Im sure a dirty gamer gets more attention than a clean one.We all love dirt

[kingjammy24]

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"why cant he wear it??? its 1,000 bucks, u drive a 25,000 car and leave it on the street? whats the big deal, oh maybe he will be walking down the street and a can of paint will fall on him??? and if u really think the player was the last person to wear the jersey than u better get a grip... just put these jerseys in a showcase and stare at a thousand dollars of cloth."

the problem is that when reselling the jersey, the buyer can no longer ascertain the amount of legit game use. this would affect the price and desirability. many collectors have no interest in lightly-worn shirts. if a person bought a very lightly worn jersey, wore it years, added considerable wash wear to it, and then resold it, then the buyers would think that the shirt was heavily worn when it wasn't. it's almost like unconscious doctoring. you can no longer discern legit game wear from wear accumulated from sitting on the sofa and that is an issue to collectors. cars aren't sold with significant premiums attached to their wear. you're not going to pay a lot more for a car because it's got tons of dents and dings and over 100k miles on it. look at the recent jim brown shirt. the entire issue with it was the LACK of wear. imagine if some schmuck had worn it around town for a few years and put a few snags and tears in it. it'd easily add thousands dollars to the final price and the buyer would think brown had worn it a lot.

"..just put these jerseys in a showcase and stare at a thousand dollars of cloth"

yeah i thought the same thing when i visited a museum recently and saw some 1200 yr old etruscan plates and cups. i thought why not bust those plates out and have some lunch on them? one of the bowls looked like it could hold a 20-pc KFC bucket. pour a little Sprite in those cups. let's all do our part to destroy a little history so the next generation can't enjoy it. what a waste to put them all in a showcase and stare at priceless pieces of clay. we could all be having a picnic with them.

rudy.

[trsent]

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In best trsent voice...

You can't just call your mother-in-law a liar on this board without presenting evidence to support your claims.

Admins, please tell me why helmets is allowed to continue posting after this unprovoked attack on his mother in law.

Isn't it possible that your mother-in-law was the person in Vegas who bought the shirt? And maybe it's a Xmas gift for you. So you, my friend, might be knee deep in this scandal without even knowing it.

Gotta run. My inbox is filling up with emails stating that my posts are the most refreshing on the board. Really.

Greg Faragher, if you are going to make fun of me, for something so stupid, make it funny like you usually do.

I was going to chime in with a few questions-observations:

- Joseph Mayo, what is the jersey originally good and now it is no good? I cannot figure out why the jersey was bought game used, sold to a guy on the street and then determined it was not game used. I think a story needs to be told what makes this jersey not game used.

- Also, Joseph, did you just happen to have the Lampson LOA with you when the guy in The Bellagio bought it from you? If you didn't, why wouldn't you have taken his name and address and mailed it to him?

- $1300 walking around The Bellagio in cash? You guys question some really stupid stuff. As a poker player in Las Vegas for six years, I used to carry 1-3 $5000 Bellagio chips in my pockets at all times as they were just as good as cash. In fact, once at The Commerce Casino in California I ran out of cash and I had no problem cashing one of these chips there with another player. In other words, cash or Bellagio chips are abundant anywhere in Las Vegas - Especially at The Bellagio.

- Finally, folks on here complain when someone buys a game used jersey then wears it. If someone owns an item, they have a right to wear it. I personally only wear my Malik Sealy Timberwolves warm-up shit, that I have worn for years and years and it is almost falling apart, but I wore this more than most any other piece of clothing I own. It was a lower end piece, but really, we are not to judge who wears a $50, $500, $1000, $5000 item they buy or own. I know most of us wouldn't do it ourselves.

[flaco1801]

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why cant he wear it??? its 1,000 bucks, u drive a 25,000 car and leave it on the street? whats the big deal, oh maybe he will be walking down the street and a can of paint will fall on him??? and if u really think the player was the last person to wear the jersey than u better get a grip... just put these jerseys in a showcase and stare at a thousand dollars of cloth.

[otismalibu]

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This whole thread reminds me of my mother-in-law when she makes up stories as she goes along...

In best trsent voice...

You can't just call your mother-in-law a liar on this board without presenting evidence to support your claims.

Admins, please tell me why helmets is allowed to continue posting after this unprovoked attack on his mother in law.

Isn't it possible that your mother-in-law was the person in Vegas who bought the shirt? And maybe it's a Xmas gift for you. So you, my friend, might be knee deep in this scandal without even knowing it.

Gotta run. My inbox is filling up with emails stating that my posts are the most refreshing on the board. Really.

[helmets]

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This whole thread reminds me of my mother-in-law when she makes up stories as she goes along...

[dcrules01]

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Because his MJ gamer was in the wash.

Lol

[B1SON]

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What a minute, hold on, I want to make sure I undertand this! Were you seriously wearing Kobe Bryant jersey that you assumed to be game used? Then a random person off the street offered you, what Im assuming is quite a bit of money, for a game used jersey he see's you wearing, without any proof that the jersey is game used. What exacly do you feel bad about, wearing the jersey or the fact some random (obviously intoxicated) person bought it?

This is a great story that could possibly be made into one of those, "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" commercials.

I wish I had the _____ to wear a $1,000 jersey on the streets of Vegas. At least he paid you for it, your lucky he didn't just swipe it off your back. I'd be afraid of spilling anything on it.

[B1SON]

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Because his MJ gamer was in the wash.

lol! Fletch! I got it! Good one!

[otismalibu]

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Why would you be wearing a Kobe Bryant gamer??

Because his MJ gamer was in the wash.

[dcrules01]

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Why would you be wearing a Kobe Bryant gamer??

[Jags Fan Dan]

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Anybody who can be walking around and just arbitrarily buy a Kobe jersey for a game used-type price must have enough money that they really don't care if it's real or not. How did he pay you on the spot? I'm assuming cash, and not a small amount of cash. Anybody carrying that kind of cash probably wouldn't be THAT upset to find out the jersey isn't real. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Billyu40]

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I bought it from Vintage under the idea it was game used. I literally sold it off my back in Las Vegas. I was walking in Bellagio and a Laker fan saw it and inquired. I told him what it was and he offered to buy it. Thats how I lost track of the buyer. Never saw him again.


Thats how Lampson threw me under the bus......

What a minute, hold on, I want to make sure I undertand this! Were you seriously wearing Kobe Bryant jersey that you assumed to be game used? Then a random person off the street offered you, what Im assuming is quite a bit of money, for a game used jersey he see's you wearing, without any proof that the jersey is game used. What exacly do you feel bad about, wearing the jersey or the fact some random (obviously intoxicated) person bought it?

This is a great story that could possibly be made into one of those, "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" commercials.