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  • Tedw9
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 290

    #16
    Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

    The grain matches up, but the inscription does not. Look at the numbers on both bats, the 38, 39. They are both written different. I don't understand why they would do that, but they are different. Maybe they erased the inscriptions and then realized they had the correct date/hr on the bat to begin with? Just grasping at straws here, but the writing is different between the two pics.

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    • d4cliff
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 7

      #17
      Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

      Hello Bobby,

      Are you the one that posted a concern, during 2/2005, about seeing an AROD 2002 game used hr #16 Louisville Slugger bat being auctioned by Mastronet, and an AROD 2002 game used hr #16 Rawlings bat that was auctioned by Vintage Authentics? If so, do you know where I can get a photo of the Rawlings bat. Vintage Authentics no longer has their photo of the bat.

      Cliff

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      • mfsquirrelmaster
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 345

        #18
        Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

        Hey Cliff,
        This is very off topic and may seem crazy, but does d4 stand for Dillinger Four? The best MF'n band ever!!


        "We fight the only way we can, middle finger to the man, laughing all the way Yeah, Yeah, Yeah"
        DILLINGER FOUR

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        • gameused
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 1912

          #19
          Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

          Originally posted by d4cliff
          Hello Bobby,

          Are you the one that posted a concern, during 2/2005, about seeing an AROD 2002 game used hr #16 Louisville Slugger bat being auctioned by Mastronet, and an AROD 2002 game used hr #16 Rawlings bat that was auctioned by Vintage Authentics? If so, do you know where I can get a photo of the Rawlings bat. Vintage Authentics no longer has their photo of the bat.

          Cliff
          Cliff,

          Sorry for the late reply, I searched my saved pics and cannot find that photo of that Rawlings HR #16 bat. I'm not sure if I saved it.

          Here's the link to that discussion, http://www.network54.com/Forum/37997...16+bat+a+fake-

          The Vintage auction link is no longer available.

          Bobby

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          • d4cliff
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 7

            #20
            Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

            Bobby,

            Thanks for your response.

            Cliff

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            • flaco1801
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 590

              #21
              Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

              ill never understand why a guy making 25 million a year even bothers with these bats.............

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              • kingjammy24
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 3119

                #22
                Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                it's clear that arod wrote the same inscription on 2 different bats. not the first time it's happened.

                has anyone wondered about the logistics of how arod was supposedly able to inscribe so many bats with specific dates and HR numbers? he's issued a lot of relatively insignificant inscriptions (eg: 18th HR of the season or some such). after he hit some trivial homerun, did he separate that bat from the rest? how did he make sure that these specific HR bats didn't get mixed in with the rest as the team travelled from city to city? given the sheer amount of inscribed HR bats, how did he keep all of the dates and HRs matched up with the specific bats? did he tie little tags around each bat and keep a journal? you'd really need quite a diligent little system to pull it off accurately. meigray can do it because they're affixing unique IDs and tracking them via a database. how was arod doing it? if he's mixing up manufacturers, dates, and HR numbers something tells me he wasn't. something tells me these signings were done after the fact and if that's the case, then who was keeping track? i can't see arod diligently keeping a little bat journal and tying little tags on bat to keep them straight.

                has anyone actually photomatched an Arod HR bat?

                rudy.

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                • frikativ54
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3612

                  #23
                  Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                  Originally posted by kingjammy24
                  it's clear that arod wrote the same inscription on 2 different bats. not the first time it's happened.

                  has anyone wondered about the logistics of how arod was supposedly able to inscribe so many bats with specific dates and HR numbers? he's issued a lot of relatively insignificant inscriptions (eg: 18th HR of the season or some such). after he hit some trivial homerun, did he separate that bat from the rest? how did he make sure that these specific HR bats didn't get mixed in with the rest as the team travelled from city to city? given the sheer amount of inscribed HR bats, how did he keep all of the dates and HRs matched up with the specific bats? did he tie little tags around each bat and keep a journal? you'd really need quite a diligent little system to pull it off accurately. meigray can do it because they're affixing unique IDs and tracking them via a database. how was arod doing it? if he's mixing up manufacturers, dates, and HR numbers something tells me he wasn't. something tells me these signings were done after the fact and if that's the case, then who was keeping track? i can't see arod diligently keeping a little bat journal and tying little tags on bat to keep them straight.

                  has anyone actually photomatched an Arod HR bat?

                  rudy.
                  Rudy,

                  You make excellent points. Players often can identify their bats. But if you are using a different one for practically every homer, then it's going to be difficult to identify them all. Is it just me, or would A-Rod really care which bat he hit which homerun with, unless it was one he used to break a major record? I would guess that A-Rod just made an educated guess as to which bat was which, signed them, and was done with it.

                  Why would he do it? Well, for athletes who use hundreds of bats, making guesses on five or ten bats wouldn't be that big of a deal. But for us as collectors spending our hard-earned money, it really matters. And taken together with some of A-Rod's other actions, I have serious questions about his character. Though no one can doubt that he's among the best who have ever played.
                  Les Zukor
                  bagwellgameused@gmail.com
                  Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

                  http://www.bagwellgameused.com
                  (617) 682-0408

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                  • schubert1970
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 815

                    #24
                    Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                    Originally posted by kingjammy24
                    it's clear that arod wrote the same inscription on 2 different bats. not the first time it's happened.

                    has anyone wondered about the logistics of how arod was supposedly able to inscribe so many bats with specific dates and HR numbers? he's issued a lot of relatively insignificant inscriptions (eg: 18th HR of the season or some such). after he hit some trivial homerun, did he separate that bat from the rest? how did he make sure that these specific HR bats didn't get mixed in with the rest as the team travelled from city to city? given the sheer amount of inscribed HR bats, how did he keep all of the dates and HRs matched up with the specific bats? did he tie little tags around each bat and keep a journal? you'd really need quite a diligent little system to pull it off accurately. meigray can do it because they're affixing unique IDs and tracking them via a database. how was arod doing it? if he's mixing up manufacturers, dates, and HR numbers something tells me he wasn't. something tells me these signings were done after the fact and if that's the case, then who was keeping track? i can't see arod diligently keeping a little bat journal and tying little tags on bat to keep them straight.

                    has anyone actually photomatched an Arod HR bat?

                    rudy.

                    Yes, I think Tony has two of them photomatched and I've matched my own. I spoke with Matt at MVP and he told me about how AROD keeps track of these bats.

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                    • suave1477
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 4266

                      #25
                      Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                      Originally posted by schubert1970
                      Yes, I think Tony has two of them photomatched and I've matched my own. I spoke with Matt at MVP and he told me about how AROD keeps track of these bats.
                      CAN YOU TELL US?

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                      • d4cliff
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 7

                        #26
                        Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                        I would also like to hear how AROD keeps track of his bats. Especially when you consider that AROD claims to have hit home run 38 and 39 in 2003 with my bat, and PSA/DNA's examination of it found No Evidence of Use. Also, you will find a photo of another AROD game used home run number 38 bat from 2003 posted in this forum.

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                        • schubert1970
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 815

                          #27
                          Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                          Originally posted by suave1477
                          CAN YOU TELL US?
                          If you really want to know call Matt or Mario @ MVP, they will be able to give you more specific details. I can tell you Arod doesn't just pick up a bunch of game used bats and sign them. If this was the case we wouldn't have any photomatches, unless it was by luck.

                          I can't speak for the prior Arod stuff, but IMHO I have full confidence in MVP.

                          Bill

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                          • suicide_squeeze
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1442

                            #28
                            Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                            O.K., Bill, so you've bought some stuff from MVP, and you're here protecting your investment(s). We understand.

                            I'll ask again.....unless you feel some sort of obligation not to start spreading info you are UNCOMFORTABLE with.......How does A-Rod keep track of his home run bats????

                            Obviously, if the guys at MVP have told you, it's no industry or A-Rod "007" secret.

                            Be a sport and share it with us?

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                            • schubert1970
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 815

                              #29
                              Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                              Originally posted by suicide_squeeze
                              O.K., Bill, so you've bought some stuff from MVP, and you're here protecting your investment(s). We understand.

                              I'll ask again.....unless you feel some sort of obligation not to start spreading info you are UNCOMFORTABLE with.......How does A-Rod keep track of his home run bats????

                              Obviously, if the guys at MVP have told you, it's no industry or A-Rod "007" secret.

                              Be a sport and share it with us?
                              Wouldn't you rather make a phone call and get the information directly from the source instead of the person trying to protect their investment???? I'm sure anything I would say has some bias as you've already eluded to.

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                              • suave1477
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 4266

                                #30
                                Re: AROD Game Used Home Run Bat with No Evidence of Use

                                Schubert are you for real?

                                Can I ask why it's a secret?

                                Did MVP ask you not to tell anyone?

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