Buyer Beware: Sticky Residue and Use Added to Bagwell Bat

[eGameUsed]

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That email was never sent from any Blackberry - I just checked my records. What a tangled web we weave, Chris, when we first practice to deceive.

What??? Your records? I was sitting at a bar last night when I typed the e-mail. What do I have to do to prove myself. Take pictures of my blackberry with the e-mail on it?

[zookerman182]

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Frik,

You need to make sure you tell the whole story! I own three 2003 Bagwell Home Pinstripe jerseys. We agreed to an unsigned jersey (I still own by the way). I offered to get it signed for you at a Bagwell signing. I purchased the jersey from Leland's along with a Bagwell jersey. Because you were striving for "the Best Bagwell" available I offered you a jersey from a source in California, but I later decided to hold that one as it came with provenance and a picture of Bagwell handing the jersey to the person. I then offered you another jersey with a "thick" autograph. I gave you two options and gave you the choice. You chose the one you ended up with. I did tell you I preferred the thinner autographed jersey as it matched my Biggio and Berkman 2003 jerseys. Strange how neglect to mention that!

I am not sure why the autograph faded, but if it did it is due to mishandling. I give a 7 day retrun policy on all items sold.

In regard to my website, as many people know, I had not updated my site in over 1 year. I have been experimenting with a total revamp. I deleted a lot of items that were no longer for sale. In my opinion, the Sam bat does have "light use." Bagwell had prepared the bat for use with his #5 on the knob and there are bat rack marks. I see nothing wrong with the description.

Light use means it has some sort of ball mark. Wether it be a white skuff, lace impressions, blue ink. Bat rack marks come on many bats that hit the market and never reach the playing field. I would describe the Bagwell bat as game issued or game ready. What exactly did Bagwell "use" the bat for? This is why there are so many unhappy collectors and fakes out there, because people give shady descriptions that dont match the product to make the extra bucks.

[eGameUsed]

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The ad that Frik has supplied has "Shows light use" in the description. You stated it has no use. Is the description in the ad wrong as well?

Bill,

The bat only exhibits bat rack marks and has a couple of scuffs at the end. I purchased the bat from Scott Brosius off eBay.

[frikativ54]

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Frik,

You need to make sure you tell the whole story! I own three 2003 Bagwell Home Pinstripe jerseys. We agreed to an unsigned jersey (I still own by the way). I offered to get it signed for you at a Bagwell signing. I purchased the jersey from Leland's along with a Bagwell jersey. Because you were striving for "the Best Bagwell" available I offered you a jersey from a source in California, but I later decided to hold that one as it came with provenance and a picture of Bagwell handing the jersey to the person. I then offered you another jersey with a "thick" autograph. I gave you two options and gave you the choice. You chose the one you ended up with. I did tell you I preferred the thinner autographed jersey as it matched my Biggio and Berkman 2003 jerseys. Strange how neglect to mention that!

I am not sure why the autograph faded, but if it did it is due to mishandling. I give a 7 day retrun policy on all items sold.

In regard to my website, as many people know, I had not updated my site in over 1 year. I have been experimenting with a total revamp. I deleted a lot of items that were no longer for sale. In my opinion, the Sam bat does have "light use." Bagwell had prepared the bat for use with his #5 on the knob and there are bat rack marks. I see nothing wrong with the description.

You never offered three jerseys. I only knew of two. And the thicker auto was supposed to be the best. It was only after I decided to buy the jerseys that you told me that it came from a friend of Jeff's in California. I know nothing of the supposed other jersey.

[frikativ54]

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He also told me that he only had one more jersey in his possession that was a 2003 gamer. Now there are two??? Something just doesn't add up here.

[chakes89]

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Sounds like someone is on some kind of personal vendetta

[frikativ54]

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What??? Your records? I was sitting at a bar last night when I typed the e-mail. What do I have to do to prove myself. Take pictures of my blackberry with the e-mail on it?

You emailed me originally from the Blackberry. It was only when you described the Bagwell as having use that you sent me the pictures. And that was at 10 pm later that night. That is, 12:00 am later your time. There was no cutting and pasting error.

[eGameUsed]

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Light use means it has some sort of ball mark. Wether it be a white skuff, lace impressions, blue ink. Bat rack marks come on many bats that hit the market and never reach the playing field. I would describe the Bagwell bat as game issued or game ready. What exactly did Bagwell "use" the bat for? This is why there are so many unhappy collectors and fakes out there, because people give shady descriptions that dont match the product to make the extra bucks.

Zookerman,

There are only signs of bat rack marks and a couple of scuff at the end of the bat, also likely from the bat rack or maybe even the box the bat came in. I received the bat directly from Scott Brosius off of eBay as it is today. The bat has Jeff's #5 on the knob sticker.

I did nothing wrong here. Frik posts only part of my e-mail. I gave her the benefit of the doubt ands assumed she didn't get the whole thing. She could have easily clarified with me. It is plain as day on my sent e-mail. But, no one will believe me, so why argue. Frik asked about both the Sam bat and another bat I offered. The one that has the light sticky tar and ball mark is the top bat pictured. I go on in my e-mail to state that the sam bat has no use, but is like the one pictured on the cover of the Astros Bagwell retirement program, which I assumed she has seen as a point of reference!

[cigarman44]

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Frik,

Good news is you are incorrect! However, I did make a mistake in my e-mail regarding which bat I was describing.

Seems like one "mistake" too many for my taste. I'll remind myself not to make the "mistake" of purchasing anything from you.

[b.heagy]

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Light use means it has some sort of ball mark. Wether it be a white skuff, lace impressions, blue ink. Bat rack marks come on many bats that hit the market and never reach the playing field. I would describe the Bagwell bat as game issued or game ready. What exactly did Bagwell "use" the bat for? This is why there are so many unhappy collectors and fakes out there, because people give shady descriptions that dont match the product to make the extra bucks.

I agree with the above, game ready would be a better description, regardless of the source. What is the going rate for a solid game used Bagwell bat anyway?

[chakes89]

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Can't be too much

He was nothing special and he has not shot at the HOF

He didn't get 500 HR, He didn't get 3,000 Hits, He didn't win a World Series

He wasn't even the best player on his team during his tenure, Craig Biggio was

[chakes89]

Re: Buyer Beware: Sticky Residue and Use Added to Bagwell Bat

Can't be too much

He was nothing special and he has no shot at the HOF

He didn't get 500 HR, He didn't get 3,000 Hits, He didn't win a World Series

He wasn't even the best player on his team during his tenure, Craig Biggio was

Typo

[eGameUsed]

Re: Buyer Beware: Sticky Residue and Use Added to Bagwell Bat

You emailed me originally from the Blackberry. It was only when you described the Bagwell as having use that you sent me the pictures. And that was at 10 pm later that night. That is, 12:00 am later your time. There was no cutting and pasting error.

Frik,

Why don't we take this little battle off this forum. The bat with the use was the "OTHER" one, the Easton Stix bat that you requested pictures of. So . . . you are confused and I have to take all this heat.

How about this, I will give you the stupid Sam bat. Free of charge. Is that what you want. Or, are you still upset that I wouldn't sell you the hard protective shell, or the gold/black turf cleats, or the red/black Kile tribute cleats. You offered me $1200 for a pair of cleats I told you I paid $300 for!!!!!!!!! I still refused! I am out for money, then I sell them. I am a collector and have been so for over 20 years. I am not going to let you take me down just because you are bitter! You build your collection over 20 years and then you can come after people!

[frikativ54]

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Here is the email that Chris sent. I don't know how to be more clear.

[sayhey24]

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I too had a problem with Chris and a bat he agreed to buy from me last year -- this thread explains a lot.

Greg