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  • xpress34
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2648

    #16
    Re: Thoughts on this...

    Originally posted by gameused
    Chris,

    I have a photo matched Albert Pujols 2002 Old Hickory ROY inscribed bat with the pointed A. His early auto's have the pointed A. The bat was signed on 1-31-03

    Bobby
    Bobby -

    Thanks for the pics... I would like all of them I can get to compare with this hat when it comes along with those in my personal collection...

    - Chris

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    • xpress34
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2648

      #17
      Re: Thoughts on this...

      The guy sent me the hat and it arrived today for me to inspect - I have a week to decide what I want to do...

      I'll post pictures in a couple of hours when I get back home.

      - Chris

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      • xpress34
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2648

        #18
        Re: Thoughts on this...

        Alright... here are pics of the Hat with my ROY Ball and Bobby's ROY Bat for comparison...

        Thoughts???

        My Ball:



        Bobby's Bat:



        The hat:



        The Hat next to my Ball:



        Love to hear any thought or opinions... also would love to see any other EARLY Pujols Autos - especially if you were lucky enough to get a ROY inscription...

        - Chris

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        • cigarman44
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 621

          #19
          Re: Thoughts on this...

          Originally posted by xpress34
          Alright... here are pics of the Hat with my ROY Ball and Bobby's ROY Bat for comparison...

          Thoughts???

          My Ball:



          Bobby's Bat:



          The hat:



          The Hat next to my Ball:



          Love to hear any thought or opinions... also would love to see any other EARLY Pujols Autos - especially if you were lucky enough to get a ROY inscription...

          - Chris
          Auto and script look pretty good to me

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          • bigtruck260
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 1729

            #20
            Re: Thoughts on this...

            First - Bobby, DUDE! That bat is seriously sick. One of the best I have ever seen....and I am jealous.

            I agree with Joe (Cigarman) that the sig and inscription looks good, even though it is one of my least favorite autographs scripts. I have had 3 just like it (1 was in-person) and all were rejected by PSA. As a matter of fact, of the 5 Pujols sigs I sent them, NONE came back good. Considering that one of them was purchased from the Cardinals wives for a charity day at the ballpark, I was miffed.

            Big Al was in the habit of changing things around back in the 02-04 period. It was about that time he started using one of the ugliest ball-park sigs out there...even for little kids sometimes.

            He's a great guy, but VERY tough when it comes to his memorabilia - and rightfully so...he's one of the most forged/faked athletes around. I was always more into the way Ripken did things - he signed for EVERYONE and because of it, you rarely see Ripken fakes (though eBay usually has a few a month)...and his sig still retains some value.

            Anyway, back to the hat - I have seen this exact same sig on things before...and all I can tell you as a Cards guy is...go with your gut, and don't overspend. When looking for Pujols merch, I tend to take the high road - the road that leads to Upper Deck, Steiner, Tri-Star and Cardinals Care - and no-doubt JSA sigs (because even some of those I question)...but that's just me.
            Dave
            Looking for 1990's STL Cardinal starting pitcher's bats
            River City Redbird Authentics
            http://www.freewebs.com/bigtruck260/

            sigpic

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            • xpress34
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2648

              #21
              Re: Thoughts on this...

              Dave and Joe -

              Thanks for the input. As far as PSA, I had the same issue when I sent my ball to them. Came back as 'unable to authenticate' or some crap like that.

              I got the auto personally outside the back door of Niketown Denver at the Denver Pavillions in 2002.

              I thought the scripts matched pretty well too - I just wanted some other opinions...

              A couple of things I do know are there aren't many early ROY Pujols autos out there, so the '-' between ROY and 01' was a good mark as well as the slight curve at the bottom of the 'y' in Roy. Also, most of the fakes I seen tend to not put the '.' betwwen A and Pujols...

              The seller was told that it's a GU hat - I'm not buying it on that premise - I'm buying solely as an AUTO Hat... and I think it's a pretty good deal at right around $215 w/ shipping. What do you guys think?

              - Chris

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              • kwitzel

                #22
                Re: Thoughts on this...

                I obtained this non gamed used bat a couple of years ago. It is one of my favorite items in my collection.



                Thank you,

                Karl

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                • bigtruck260
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1729

                  #23
                  Re: Thoughts on this...

                  Originally posted by xpress34
                  Dave and Joe -

                  Thanks for the input. As far as PSA, I had the same issue when I sent my ball to them. Came back as 'unable to authenticate' or some crap like that.

                  I got the auto personally outside the back door of Niketown Denver at the Denver Pavillions in 2002.

                  I thought the scripts matched pretty well too - I just wanted some other opinions...

                  A couple of things I do know are there aren't many early ROY Pujols autos out there, so the '-' between ROY and 01' was a good mark as well as the slight curve at the bottom of the 'y' in Roy. Also, most of the fakes I seen tend to not put the '.' betwwen A and Pujols...

                  The seller was told that it's a GU hat - I'm not buying it on that premise - I'm buying solely as an AUTO Hat... and I think it's a pretty good deal at right around $215 w/ shipping. What do you guys think?

                  - Chris

                  I think $200-$250 is the correct price for a good Pujols sig on a ball, hat or 16x20. Bats are far more expensive because of the rarity - jerseys too.
                  You could expect to pay around $800 for an unused signed, and game-issued bat. UD has one for that price - though it is an older model SAM bat. UD sells a jersey for $1200, but dealers sell them on eBay cheaper.

                  The thing is, UD sigs that don't fade have almost always retained value if it's a high dollar item. Just look at the Mantle signed products that they sold in the 1990's. People see that UD hologram and know it's far and away the real deal.

                  I've seen JSA and PSA balls sell in the $150-$300 range (offical MLB balls). There have been several hats like yours (sans the inscription and GAME USED) that have been sold for $200-$500 in the past few years. Game used is certainly more desirable, so if yours has the correct characteristics - you might have a gem coming to you. Even if it's not a gamer, it's got some value...unless, of course the sizing is all wrong, and it has a little kid's name under the brim.

                  Hope it all works out for you. I think it will.
                  Dave
                  Looking for 1990's STL Cardinal starting pitcher's bats
                  River City Redbird Authentics
                  http://www.freewebs.com/bigtruck260/

                  sigpic

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                  • gameused
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1912

                    #24
                    Re: Thoughts on this...

                    Originally posted by bigtruck260
                    First - Bobby, DUDE! That bat is seriously sick. One of the best I have ever seen....and I am jealous.

                    I agree with Joe (Cigarman) that the sig and inscription looks good, even though it is one of my least favorite autographs scripts. I have had 3 just like it (1 was in-person) and all were rejected by PSA. As a matter of fact, of the 5 Pujols sigs I sent them, NONE came back good. Considering that one of them was purchased from the Cardinals wives for a charity day at the ballpark, I was miffed.

                    Big Al was in the habit of changing things around back in the 02-04 period. It was about that time he started using one of the ugliest ball-park sigs out there...even for little kids sometimes.

                    He's a great guy, but VERY tough when it comes to his memorabilia - and rightfully so...he's one of the most forged/faked athletes around. I was always more into the way Ripken did things - he signed for EVERYONE and because of it, you rarely see Ripken fakes (though eBay usually has a few a month)...and his sig still retains some value.

                    Anyway, back to the hat - I have seen this exact same sig on things before...and all I can tell you as a Cards guy is...go with your gut, and don't overspend. When looking for Pujols merch, I tend to take the high road - the road that leads to Upper Deck, Steiner, Tri-Star and Cardinals Care - and no-doubt JSA sigs (because even some of those I question)...but that's just me.
                    Dave,

                    Thanks! It's a early Pujols bat and when I spoke to the owner of Old Hickory several years ago, he told me only two of these two tone color combo bats were sent to Pujols for him to try in 2002, I guess the handle was too thick so he shaved it down. Besides the card match, I have a getty image photo match of the top of the cupped barrel, with his number 5 written in silver.

                    Chris,

                    The auto on the hat looks good, nice pick up!

                    Bobby

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                    • Instanton
                      Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 86

                      #25
                      Re: Thoughts on this...

                      xpress34: is it possible you can forward me an email at Josenemsn13579@msn.com? I have a few inquires on Rockies GU (of recent years (05-09). Thank you.

                      - Jose.

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                      • xpress34
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2648

                        #26
                        Re: Thoughts on this...

                        Originally posted by Instanton
                        xpress34: is it possible you can forward me an email at Josenemsn13579@msn.com? I have a few inquires on Rockies GU (of recent years (05-09). Thank you.

                        - Jose.
                        Jose -

                        eMail sent.

                        - Chris

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