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We'll see if you feel the same when they don't make the playoffs in Oct. I hope they don't, just to prove it's not about one guy... It's a team sport. Manny isn't God.
LOL who's going to beat them? The D'Backs? The Giants? The Padres? They have a good team without Manny in a very weak division. With him, they are just that much stronger. He's not god and I don't believe anyone here thinks he is but he's a hell of a bat.
LOL who's going to beat them? The D'Backs? The Giants? The Padres? They have a good team without Manny in a very weak division. With him, they are just that much stronger. He's not god and I don't believe anyone here thinks he is but he's a hell of a bat.
He is the obvious choice for god of putting fans in the stands and driving overall team revenue.
Many of us, me included, have bashed Manny mercilessly in recent threads. I just can't adapt to the thinking that his Dodgers teammates know him, in only a few months' time, he put on a one-man (make that 2, if you include Bora$$) show to drive up his contract. As states with accuracy in numerous other recent threads, his Boston teammates, fans, front office and media despised the man.
I, as a Boston fan, do not ever subscribe to whining, as the team did as well or better in his absence. The cancer was excised from the clubhouse. Jason Bay was a terrific replacement for him. Nor did many whine when Pedro, Clemens, Damon, or Nomar left. They were all superstars at one point in their careers, then, the lust for power, fame and fortune set in and destroyed them all. All you need on Boston's team is a Pedroia, a Youk, a Bay, (in the past a Millar, or a Cabrera) to make the climate perfect. I don't begrudge anyone their right and privilege to fawn over Manny's batting ability, and one would be duly gleeful to see his production come along in their lineup, but I will predict with all my being that Manny will loom darkly over the Dodgers community one day soon. And we can all write about it right here on this board. I personally do not wish for the failure of the Dodgers. But I feel strongly that LA will rue the day they blew 45 mill on a one-dimensional, prima-donna supremo, man-child like Ramirez.
Many of us, me included, have bashed Manny mercilessly in recent threads. I just can't adapt to the thinking that his Dodgers teammates know him, in only a few months' time, he put on a one-man (make that 2, if you include Bora$$) show to drive up his contract. As states with accuracy in numerous other recent threads, his Boston teammates, fans, front office and media despised the man.
I, as a Boston fan, do not ever subscribe to whining, as the team did as well or better in his absence. The cancer was excised from the clubhouse. Jason Bay was a terrific replacement for him. Nor did many whine when Pedro, Clemens, Damon, or Nomar left. They were all superstars at one point in their careers, then, the lust for power, fame and fortune set in and destroyed them all. All you need on Boston's team is a Pedroia, a Youk, a Bay, (in the past a Millar, or a Cabrera) to make the climate perfect. I don't begrudge anyone their right and privilege to fawn over Manny's batting ability, and one would be duly gleeful to see his production come along in their lineup, but I will predict with all my being that Manny will loom darkly over the Dodgers community one day soon. And we can all write about it right here on this board. I personally do not wish for the failure of the Dodgers. But I feel strongly that LA will rue the day they blew 45 mill on a one-dimensional, prima-donna supremo, man-child like Ramirez.
Orlando Cabrera? The same man the Sox DID NOT sign because he hit on players wifes and had a knack to go after "young girls?" Once you cited Millar as an impact player, I just stopped reading from there. You are getting your wish for a bunch of dirt dog grinders, while the Sox FO runs players out of town. Just wait, the same will happen with Ortiz in two years. Manny Ramirez changed the face of this franchise in 2001 and led them to one to greatest runs in Red Sox history from 2003-2007. You can have Jason Bay. I'll take Manny Ramirez.
Orlando Cabrera? The same man the Sox DID NOT sign because he hit on players wifes and had a knack to go after "young girls?" Once you cited Millar as an impact player, I just stopped reading from there. You are getting your wish for a bunch of dirt dog grinders, while the Sox FO runs players out of town. Just wait, the same will happen with Ortiz in two years. Manny Ramirez changed the face of this franchise in 2001 and led them to one to greatest runs in Red Sox history from 2003-2007. You can have Jason Bay. I'll take Manny Ramirez.
Read my post, bro. Not your version of it. Millar was the Cowboy Up personality that helped the '04 team take it all. Fan favorite and good clubhouse fit. Didn't make waves. Did I SAY 'impact player"?? Where do you get your facts on Cabrera's pranks? Please share. You seem to know zippo about the Red Sox in general, hate them, or both. But don't put words in my mouth. You have your Manny, I have mine.
I'm in agreement that Manny is most likely one of the best right-handed hitters of our generation. If he kept his mouth shut and just played the game he'd be a complete package. However, he does not. He's a cancer in the clubhouse once he's not happy (see Boston). While some might say that you gotta put up with the bad Manny to get the good Manny, I know I was sickened when he threw down the old man who handles Boston's tickets for player's family members, etc. or the countless times he walked by those cancer patients instead of taking 2 seconds of his precious time.
Some might call me a Manny-hater. Yes, I don't leave when he comes up to the plate, but there isn't much about the guy I can stomach. As I mentioned in a previous post, a team is not made up of one. The amount of $$ spent on this guy was nuts. Good luck with all that.
ROBERT KOPPEL Skyking26 - 35 year collector of Dave Kingman memorabilia. Also seek 500 HR and 3000 Hit GU Bats, and 1968, 1984, HOF Tigers GU Bats...Skyking442@hotmail.com
"While some might say that you gotta put up with the bad Manny to get the good Manny, I know I was sickened when he threw down the old man who handles Boston's tickets for player's family members, etc. or the countless times he walked by those cancer patients instead of taking 2 seconds of his precious time".
Skyking, We could be accused of never being seen in the same room together, but this is indeed at the core of the debate. I couldn't have said it better myself.
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