Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

[aeneas01]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

to be clear, tarkenton didn't make the trip to the pro bowls he withdrew from (including the 1976/77 pro bowl) - he didn't suit up for these games, he didn't hang out on the sideline, etc. - he was mia...

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[aeneas01]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Burlington. (N.C.) Times-News Fri., Jan. 4, 1977
Tarkenton Under Fire For Skipping Pro Bowl

SAN DIEGO (AP) — They're saying some pretty nasty things about Fran Tarkenton at the Pro Bowl, mainly because he's not a part of it. "His not being here is like a slap in the face to every player taking part in this game," St Louis Cardinals quarterback Jim Hart said at Thursday's workout. Hart is closer to the situation than anyone else. He would not be a part of it, if Tarkenton, the quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings, had not decided to skip Monday night's game in Seattle.

Tarkenton claims an injury suffered about four weeks ago in the opening round of the National Football League playoffs is forcing him out of this annual all-star game though he never reported any after-effects from that game when he played in the National Conference championships and in the Super BowL.

"It's not the first time he's pulled this," Hart said of Tarkenton's withdrawal. "Personally, I couldn't be happier. It gives me a chance to play in a game that only a few players get a chance to play in. I'm absolutiey delighted to be here. Listen, it's more than just another game. It's an honor."

Tarkenton, it must be noted, is not the only Pro Bowl selection pulling out of this meeting of American and National Conference stars. Five others have done the same — but that hasn't stilled the criticism of Tarkenton.

"If a guy's chosen to play in a game like this," said Hart, "he should have the decency to be a part of it. It's not asking too much."

Tarkenton has now been selected to four Pro Bowls. But he has appeared in only one, in 1971. This makes the third straight year be is by-passing this game, which follows the Super Bowl by one week.

"His excuses are wearing a little thin, don't you think?" said Roger Staubach of Dallas, elevated to the NFC starting quarterback job by Tarkenton's absence. "I think what he's doing is disgraceful."

Even one of Tarkenton's teammates, rookie wide receiver Sammy White, was critical of his quarterback. "If it was really a bad injury that was keeping him out, like Franco (Hams of the Pittsburgh Steelers), I could see it," White said. "But from what's being said, I just don't know. "This is my first game, so I'm all excited about it. Maybe if I'd been picked for a lot of them, I'd feel different — but I hope not. I mean, the fans are paying to see the best players in the game. That's what they deserve. That's what they should be seeing."

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sorry, no link - it's from a paid newspaper archive service. btw, the photo the card company chose to use (below) for that bogus collectible is actually from the 1970 pro bowl (played in 1971), the only pro bowl in which tarkenton participated...



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[suave1477]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Both teams you kill me every time lmaoooo

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Error on 2005 DonRuss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Ok, here comes one. Go for it Warren.

I would like to see who comes up with a box score first without going to the library. I couldn't find one - yet.

Francis on a rooster

[trsent]

Re: Error on 2005 DonRuss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

If I didn't have such an exciting life, I would put together a photo-shop creation...

Ok, here comes one. Go for it Warren.

I would like to see who comes up with a box score first without going to the library. I couldn't find one - yet.

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Error on 2005 DonRuss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

He was on the rooster -

If I didn't have such an exciting life, I would put together a photo-shop creation...

[trsent]

Re: Error on 2005 DonRuss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

The thing is, this is serious to me. When I thought that I purchased a card that had the jersey Tarkenton wore during his MVP 1975 season (76 pro bowl), I couldn't have been more thrilled.

Right now I'm looking for a box-score to confirm that he did not play during that Pro Bowl game, we'll see.

He was on the rooster -

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1976/probowl.htm

[RKO18]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Serious post. First wait 'til you get the card. Contact a lawyer about fraud. Threaten Donruss with legal action. Tell them you have a friend who works for a National Newspaper who thinks this would make a great human interest story. I am very sorry about how Fran is your childhood hero and you are suffering from mental anguish. Night sweats? It's at least worth a prescription for medical weed.
BTW...Pro-bowlers wore red, white and blue jerseys specially made for the game regardless of what team they're from. They were always red, white and blue. I have never heard of a pro-bowl jersey being re-used from game to game.
I am also serious about the legal action. Somebody will say we are in a sue-happy society. Ask those people if they will pay your rent.

The thing is, this is serious to me. When I thought that I purchased a card that had the jersey Tarkenton wore during his MVP 1975 season (76 pro bowl), I couldn't have been more thrilled.

Right now I'm looking for a box-score to confirm that he did not play during that Pro Bowl game, we'll see.

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Serious post. First wait 'til you get the card. Contact a lawyer about fraud. Threaten Donruss with legal action. Tell them you have a friend who works for a National Newspaper who thinks this would make a great human interest story. I am very sorry about how Fran is your childhood hero and you are suffering from mental anguish. Night sweats? It's at least worth a prescription for medical weed.
BTW...Pro-bowlers wore red, white and blue jerseys specially made for the game regardless of what team they're from. They were always red, white and blue. I have never heard of a pro-bowl jersey being re-used from game to game.
I am also serious about the legal action. Somebody will say we are in a sue-happy society. Ask those people if they will pay your rent.

[Eric]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Someone mentioned the thread about bad swatches

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=17643

[otismalibu]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Is there any way to authenticate a swatch of material as far as attributing it to a certain player?

Well, maybe on CSI.

Or maybe if only one swatch was taken and someone has the rest of the jersey, so you can compare.

Ask them for a photo (back, front and tags) of the jersey that was cut up for the card. I asked Upper Deck for this info. They said they don't keep that info. I wonder why?

[RKO18]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Trust me it's not too big of a mistake. Card companies have made worse in the past.

As the other member mentioned if you do a search you will see this topic has been brought up before on the mistakes card companies make.

I myself have once found a Darryl Strawberry card with a piece in the card of a patch with colors in it that Darryl could of never ever worn for a game.

Because the colors used were never used in anything he was apart of baseball wise.
Was not an all star patch, world series, or anything as far as even a regular season significance patch.

I guess I've been in the dark about this, I have not collected too many game-worn jersey cards. I went to Donruss' website and there is a form you could fill out and send with the card to have a piece of "Prime-Jersey" authenticated. The problem is, I'm awaiting this card in the mail and I'd rather send it back than to risk it if there is not greater detail on the back of the card.

[suave1477]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

Thank you for the suggestion.
. I'd just really like to figure this out because it seems like too big a mistake to have been made.

Trust me it's not too big of a mistake. Card companies have made worse in the past.

As the other member mentioned if you do a search you will see this topic has been brought up before on the mistakes card companies make.

I myself have once found a Darryl Strawberry card with a piece in the card of a patch with colors in it that Darryl could of never ever worn for a game.

Because the colors used were never used in anything he was apart of baseball wise.
Was not an all star patch, world series, or anything as far as even a regular season significance patch.

[RKO18]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

I would wait till you actually get the card in your hands to see exactly what the card states. The seller is saying that it is from the Pro Bowl. But the card itself may just say Game Worn and just a picture of him and calling this the (Pro Bowl series) (of this particular set).

If in deed it does state game worn during the pro bowl could also be a possibility that maybe even if he was injured could of sat on the sidelines. I know this doesn't mean game worn but that could be there way of saying he wore the Jersey as he sat there. I don't know just a suggestion.

Or this could be another card company blunder!!

Thank you for the suggestion.

I did do some more research though. Tarkenton played for both the Vikings and the Giants. The colors of the jersey within the card are blue, white, and red. The material however is different from what the Giants used, the the Giants did not have any red on their jerseys during the Tarkenton era.

It could certainly be possible that Tarkenton wore the jersey on the sideline and that would be good enough for me even though it wouldn't be "Game-Used". I'd just really like to figure this out because it seems like too big a mistake to have been made.

[5kRunner]

Re: Error on 2005 Donruss Fran Tarkenton Pro Bowl Jersey Card?

There was a thread around here that showed a whole bunch of mistakes made by card companies. Some included jersey patches that were of colors of teams that player had never played for and retail bat pieces that were "game used."

My advice is this:

"7 day money back, buyer pays return shipping"

You did the research, you know its not authentic. Cut your losses.

And save your money for full jerseys.