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  • mr.miracle
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 883

    #91
    Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

    Phil Jackson is not thinking about 10 rings.

    He's thinking about two. The two that got away, the first to Detroit in 2004 and the second to Boston in 2008. He's thinking about how no one took the Pistons seriously and how dangerous that made them. He's thinking about how he couldn't get his players to truly understand, prepare for and match the intensity of the Celtics' defense. He's thinking about losing, about the sting it left, about the way it lingers even now. He's thinking about surviving it, replacing it, pushing past it.

    He's thinking about one. This one. Right here and now. The one still to be fought for and chased down. The one to be won. The one to be celebrated and savored, should it come. The one that says, Hot damn, look what we're capable of, even with a baby-faced center and a silvered-hair coach. The one that justifies the time and sacrifice. The one that affirms the faith. The one that can come, with luck, when players connect. The only one there is.

    This is truely what I love about Jackson. Despite all his successes the most successful coach in American Professional Sports history, he is still thinking about those two that literally got away. As a Lakers fan, I will never forget the sting of those two, but then again, I will never forget the sting of 91 or 89 when the Lakers were without the services of the greatest point guard in professional basketball history and they also lost their starting shooting guard. As well as the others that I can remember in the early to mid 80's. After all, for all the Lakers successes, 15 NBA Titles, there have also been 15 NBA championship defeats.

    Despite all of my own personal successes in life, not certainly on any grand stage mind you, it is still the failures as few as they have been professionally that eat away at me. I guess we would not be human if that was not the case.
    Brett Herman

    brettherman2131@hotmail.com

    Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.

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    • mbenga28
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 555

      #92
      Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

      Congratulations to the Lakers organization and their fans for winning the franchise's fifteenth title. Respect and recognition to the Magic organization as well for their incredible run to the Finals, may this be the first of many trips with a different outcome for this young and entertaining team.

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      • mbenga28
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 555

        #93
        Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

        aside from the Kobe winning a title without Shaq plot, perhaps another media generated theme that can finally be put to rest is the pejorative Pau "Gasoft" label. He did a fantastic job guarding Dwight Howard throughout the Finals, played a tremendous amount of minutes similar to Kobe dating from last season and an interesting stat that was mentioned last night that the Lakers have not lost three in a row since acquiring Gasol.

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        • sox83cubs84
          Banned
          • Apr 2009
          • 8902

          #94
          Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

          Zen Master...you ARE the greatest. Too bad Red isn't still around, as I'd like to see what petty trash-talking he'd send your way NOW, considering you passed him by.

          Dave M.
          Chicago area

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          • sportscentury
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 2008

            #95
            Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

            Originally posted by sox83cubs84
            Zen Master...you ARE the greatest. Too bad Red isn't still around, as I'd like to see what petty trash-talking he'd send your way NOW, considering you passed him by.

            Dave M.
            Chicago area
            Speaking of petty trash-talking, did you see that Shaq's congratulatory tweet to Jackson was really just another shot at Stan Van? Pathetic.
            Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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            • mbenga28
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 555

              #96
              Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

              Originally posted by sportscentury
              Speaking of petty trash-talking, did you see that Shaq's congratulatory tweet to Jackson was really just another shot at Stan Van? Pathetic.
              the grammar on that tweet was pungent and a sore to the eyes, I can't see how anyone could go on to read the entire post when he couldn't even spell congratulations correctly.

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              • sportscentury
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 2008

                #97
                Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                Originally posted by mbenga28
                the grammar on that tweet was pungent and a sore to the eyes, I can't see how anyone could go on to read the entire post when he couldn't even spell congratulations correctly.
                I wouldn't waste my time even googling his Twitter page ... I just heard the highlights (or lowlights, rather) reported on ESPN this morning.
                Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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                • mr.miracle
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 883

                  #98
                  Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                  Originally posted by sox83cubs84
                  Zen Master...you ARE the greatest. Too bad Red isn't still around, as I'd like to see what petty trash-talking he'd send your way NOW, considering you passed him by.

                  Dave M.
                  Chicago area

                  You know, I have never really understood the whole Red vs. Phil thing. I mean I understand Red not wanting to see Phil pass him and the whole thing about Phil being a disciple of the other Red , Red Holtzman and all, but I think Aurebach took a few too many puffs of the wacky weed on his old Cigars. Red or his legions of fans would always say Phil took over all these teams with HOF players and that is why he won. First, that is not true, can anybody say Doug Collins, Kurt Rambis, Del Harris who got their respective teams to the playoffs prior to Phil taking over but could never close the deal. Secondly, did Red forget about all the HOF players he coached. He was in an 8 team league and had Russell, Heinsohn, K.C. Jones, Havlichek, Frank Ramsey, Bob Cousey,Bill Sharman, Sam Jones and Bailey Howell all NBA HOF players. To remotely suggest that Red did not have a hugely stacked deck during his tenure with the Celtics is just stupidity. Not to take anything away from Red as no coach can just role the ball out there and win games, but that arguement has just been complete stupidity anytime I have ever heard it.
                  Brett Herman

                  brettherman2131@hotmail.com

                  Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.

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                  • sox83cubs84
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 8902

                    #99
                    Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                    Originally posted by mr.miracle
                    You know, I have never really understood the whole Red vs. Phil thing. I mean I understand Red not wanting to see Phil pass him and the whole thing about Phil being a disciple of the other Red , Red Holtzman and all, but I think Aurebach took a few too many puffs of the wacky weed on his old Cigars. Red or his legions of fans would always say Phil took over all these teams with HOF players and that is why he won. First, that is not true, can anybody say Doug Collins, Kurt Rambis, Del Harris who got their respective teams to the playoffs prior to Phil taking over but could never close the deal. Secondly, did Red forget about all the HOF players he coached. He was in an 8 team league and had Russell, Heinsohn, K.C. Jones, Havlichek, Frank Ramsey, Bob Cousey,Bill Sharman, Sam Jones and Bailey Howell all NBA HOF players. To remotely suggest that Red did not have a hugely stacked deck during his tenure with the Celtics is just stupidity. Not to take anything away from Red as no coach can just role the ball out there and win games, but that arguement has just been complete stupidity anytime I have ever heard it.
                    Exactly!!

                    Dave M.
                    Chicago area

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                    • sportscentury
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2008

                      Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                      Originally posted by mr.miracle
                      You know, I have never really understood the whole Red vs. Phil thing. I mean I understand Red not wanting to see Phil pass him and the whole thing about Phil being a disciple of the other Red , Red Holtzman and all, but I think Aurebach took a few too many puffs of the wacky weed on his old Cigars. Red or his legions of fans would always say Phil took over all these teams with HOF players and that is why he won. First, that is not true, can anybody say Doug Collins, Kurt Rambis, Del Harris who got their respective teams to the playoffs prior to Phil taking over but could never close the deal. Secondly, did Red forget about all the HOF players he coached. He was in an 8 team league and had Russell, Heinsohn, K.C. Jones, Havlichek, Frank Ramsey, Bob Cousey,Bill Sharman, Sam Jones and Bailey Howell all NBA HOF players. To remotely suggest that Red did not have a hugely stacked deck during his tenure with the Celtics is just stupidity. Not to take anything away from Red as no coach can just role the ball out there and win games, but that arguement has just been complete stupidity anytime I have ever heard it.
                      The best revenge is success. Kobe didn't react to any of Shaq's nonsense, nor did Phil to Red's. They just continue to succeed.
                      Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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                      • mr.miracle
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 883

                        Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                        Originally posted by sportscentury
                        The best revenge is success. Kobe didn't react to any of Shaq's nonsense, nor did Phil to Red's. They just continue to succeed.

                        Great points, now the talk today all over the radio and tv is where does Kobe rank all-time. He will be 31 in August and has a lot of miles on his body starting at such a young age and now having played deep in the playoffs for a long time including 6 NBA finals. However, if the Lakers can keep Odom and Ariza, they are already installed as early favorites to repeat next year. If the Lakers can stay healthy and of course as always, that is a huge if in any sport, they are setup to be a title contender legitimately for the next 3 or 4 seasons. It is certainly possible if not probable that this is not Kobe's final NBA title. I think he has his sights set on far more. I would think he would have 3 - 4 seasons at a very high level of play yet before he starts to decline. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility that the Lakers can get a couple of more titles with this team. Time will tell just what this team can accomplish.
                        Brett Herman

                        brettherman2131@hotmail.com

                        Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.

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                        • mbenga28
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 555

                          Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                          Originally posted by sportscentury
                          The best revenge is success. Kobe didn't react to any of Shaq's nonsense, nor did Phil to Red's. They just continue to succeed.

                          indeed, surely this was just as sweet if not more:

                          "Laker forward Josh Powell(notes) played just 73 minutes during these playoffs, but he more than earned the sense of victory and relief that comes with his first championship ring. Needing money to support his family, Powell left North Carolina State in 2003. Long, skilled, athletic and tough he was so impressive at some of his workouts that he was briefly discussed as a lottery pick — although he ultimately went undrafted, and has played for several team overseas in the NBA in the interim. One of his workouts was for the Washington Wizards, where Patrick Ewing was then an assistant coach. After the workout, Ewing stunned Powell, by telling him that he would never make the NBA. Powell has not forgotten. 'Every time I see him,' he says, he remembers the words that once cut him. 'It was just motivation. I can't do nothing but respect it, if that's his opinion. It just drove me to go hard. It drove me to stay hungry.' About then, some NBA personnel came through the champagne-soaked Laker locker room with the gleaming NBA championship trophy. Powell finishes his thought, reaching for the trophy: 'Everything worked out for the best ... now let me see that thing right there ...'"

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                          • mbenga28
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 555

                            Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                            little off topic but have any of you recently browsed nbagameworn.com? there's some very nice new arrivals, including some Christmas 2008 jerseys and other special events.

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                            • sportscentury
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2008

                              Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                              Originally posted by mbenga28
                              little off topic but have any of you recently browsed nbagameworn.com? there's some very nice new arrivals, including some Christmas 2008 jerseys and other special events.
                              Some terrific additions, many of them at pretty low prices IMHO. I am picking up the Nowitzki 08-09 Playoff jerseys (he made All-NBA First Team again this year, and put up sick numbers in the Playoffs: 27 PPG, 10 RPG, 3 APG).

                              Other highlights are the Tim Duncan and Michael Finley game worn 2008 Christmas Day jerseys with the snowflake patch/logo.
                              Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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                              • mbenga28
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 555

                                Re: o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

                                congratulations on a fine acquisition sportscentury, as I look forward to seeing photos of this along with your other exquisite collection in the near future!

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