Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

[rareair23.com]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

It's an opinion right now until I publish the results on my website...then it will be fact.

[eisenreich8]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

I'm pretty sure PayPal offers some form of payment/claim resolution, like your CC provider would? There are options through PayPal you might want to explore.

I feel for you and wish you luck.

[mb23]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

I have explained to Mark at VA and i have showed him picture after picture showing in detail how the jersey is not real and all the issues with it. Still i get the answer of

"Mike,

If we conclude that you are correct, you will get a refund. As I have said, we need to go over this with our authenticator before we give a refund. If a refund is deemed appropriate, it should happen shortly after we would receive the jersey.

Thank you,

Mark Redmond"

So i need to wait so he can speak with his authenticator to get my refund???
Why would his authenticator(lou lampson)deem that after he deemed the jersey as a game issued?

Does'nt make sense to me!

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

First, I am not an expert.

The Sand-Knit tags look counterfeit. Not just taken from a pre-existing jersey and added to look like a real Jordan, BUT totally 100 % faked. The Fonts and printing look suspect. PLEASE take a photo of the actual size of the photo. Not stretched or distorted, but of the actual tags. Looks like a forger has started something new, or has just made a more recognizable fake.


This is something for the NY Daily News. This is so scary, that it is not worth a funny, photo-shopped picture of Lampson. I have seen printed, forged, counterfeit 50s era Wilson Tags. They are easy to spot. This Sand-Knit example is real crafty!

[otismalibu]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

The Sand-Knit tags look counterfeit. Not just taken from a pre-existing jersey and added to look like a real Jordan, BUT totally 100 % faked.

What looks fake about them?

The bottom size tag looks exactly like the size tag on my retail SK jersey.

The Designed Exclusively tag looks just like the Sixers version I have on an old gamer.

If they're fake, they are very good.

[mb23]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Like I've said im no expert, but 1 good sign of the sand knit being fake is the font on the 44 is off and not centered.

[rareair23.com]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Let VA tell you Lampson is sticking to his word...then I'll hit him with the facts...

[33bird]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

I checked that jersey out when it first came up for bid. It took me about 5 minutes on Gettys to see it wasn't even game issued. The home one had the same issues. Both are bad.

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

We need some examples from Bulls jerseys, for better comparison. These are examples from a football shirt, but notice the subtle font and spacing differences:



Also there is not scam by Vintage Authentics (even though they should have done more research). I don't think the consignor is necessarily guilty, either. The guilty party is the manufacturer of this printing device.

[mb23]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

I checked that jersey out when it first came up for bid. It took me about 5 minutes on Gettys to see it wasn't even game issued. The home one had the same issues. Both are bad.

Yeah, It took me getting it into my hands to really start to examine it i could say it didnt take long though with in a few hours i had my doubts, My fault! for not doing my homework prior, it wont happen again thats for sure.. It's just a shame that certain items pass through hands that are fake and yet end up on these auction houses. I was also blind with excitement from going after my first gamer. so i guess you can say rookie mistake!

[rareair23.com]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Without going into every little detail...the tag is bogus, most evident is the numeral 44 size which is consistant with all of the different Sand knit jordan jerseys....and now pretty much consistant with all tagging.

I'm pinpointing enough just to convince VA to refund his money back...that's all I need is for the maker of these tags to correct ALL of the mistakes..

[mb23]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Also there is not scam by Vintage Authentics (even though they should have done more research). I don't think the consignor is necessarily guilty, either. The guilty party is the manufacturer of this printing device.

I do not mean to Blame VA, but certainly there Authenticator (Lou Lampson) who they deem creditable to authenticate, should have picked up on this if he calls himself the expert. I picked up on it and it took me all of a few hours, so how can he not?

[mb23]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Without going into every little detail...the tag is bogus, most evident is the numeral 44 size which is consistant with all of the different Sand knit jordan jerseys....and now pretty much consistant with all tagging.

I'm pinpointing enough just to convince VA to refund his money back...that's all I need is for the maker of these tags to correct ALL of the mistakes..

Thanks Darren.

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

I do not mean to Blame VA, but certainly there Authenticator (Lou Lampson) who they deem creditable to authenticate, should have picked up on this if he calls himself the expert. I picked up on it and it took me all of a few hours, so how can he not?

Agreed. I want to edit my original statement. Lampson is guilty. He is the one claiming to be an expert and taking money for his opinion.

[otismalibu]

Re: Help!!!! scammed by Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Like I've said im no expert, but 1 good sign of the sand knit being fake is the font on the 44 is off and not centered.

I see the 4 is a different font on the tag.

Still not getting the off-centered thing. You realize the word Sand will be longer than Knit, even though they both have 4 letters, right? Is the tag BTPH posted off center too?