Will the Bucs/Pats London game jerseys be on NFL auction?

[indyred]

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The same guy NESPORTSNUT has bought all three that have sold so far it looks like he is going for the team set, which at these prices will cost him about 200k.

Wow, wonder who that is. It will get costly if they keep going for all of them, with a lot of collectors wanting Patriots gamers. It will get interesting.

[legaleagle92481]

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NESPORTSNUT struck again tonight he paid over 7 grand for Maroney, Maroney! He must really like the Pats, it will be interesting to see what he will pay for Brady.

[clinton2828]

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the problem that will come up is when they start to sell them (patriots) more often whoever purchased them now will lose there shirts on them.

same thing happened with the yankees jersey when they got 15k-20k for the jeters and now since they started selling them you can find them for $4-$7k .

these will lose value fast especially with them set to auction off many other pats jerseys in the next couple weeks.

[legaleagle92481]

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the problem that will come up is when they start to sell them (patriots) more often whoever purchased them now will lose there shirts on them.

same thing happened with the yankees jersey when they got 15k-20k for the jeters and now since they started selling them you can find them for $4-$7k .

these will lose value fast especially with them set to auction off many other pats jerseys in the next couple weeks.

Defintely true look at the Big Ben shoes, first pair went for almost 2x what the second pair went for only a couple of weeks later. Or last year the Jets auctioned a Kris jenkins jersey for over 2 grand on NFl auctions and this year the one they auctioned from the 9-27 game went for under $600 and Jo sports started selling Jenkins jerseys for $1,200.

[clinton2828]

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everyone knows the only reason these first round of jersey are getting back is because this is the first time they are selling them.

good point with the big ben shoes as well,

plus if you look closer at the bidding their aee only 2 bidders who were willing to bid up the pats jerseys so much; so its not like there were may ppl who even felt they were worth that much.

[frankneck]

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The same guy NESPORTSNUT has bought all three that have sold so far it looks like he is going for the team set, which at these prices will cost him about 200k.

So far he's got:
Moss - $13,510
Faulk - $5,020
Welker - $6,860
Maroney - $7,117


That's $32,507 on 4 jerseys so far, def gonna be pricey if he goes for the whole team.

[jhunt28]

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Defintely true look at the Big Ben shoes, first pair went for almost 2x what the second pair went for only a couple of weeks later. Or last year the Jets auctioned a Kris jenkins jersey for over 2 grand on NFl auctions and this year the one they auctioned from the 9-27 game went for under $600 and Jo sports started selling Jenkins jerseys for $1,200.

Unfortunately I got into a bidding war on that Jenkins jersey with a deep pocketed Jets fan...Probably one of my "regrets" that I chased the jersey to 2K. But I did pick up the New York Titans gamer, so I was hoping to dollar cost average it!! (ha ha!!) But the prices don't make sense anymore...I was lucky enough to win the Cotchery gamer in Grey Flannel the other night, offered by JO Sports. It sold for under $800, not including hammer fees. A certain company offers a similar jersey on their website for over $2k. Also some Thomas Jones gloves sold on NFL Auctions (photo matched from the Saints game) for just over $80, but you can have them from another company for $500. Pricing these days seems silly, and until other people want to get down to market levels, lots of game used inventory will sit on the shelves.

[indyred]

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Is same guy still winning them all? I see handful more are up including Wilfork.

[legaleagle92481]

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Is same guy still winning them all? I see handful more are up including Wilfork.

He added a Watson for like 4 grand but Ingram and Guyton went to other bidders but even though he did not bid on either those jerseys still both went for a mint and I am a football fanatic and I have never heard of either of them.

[34swtns]

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Don't feel alone, Pats fans. I'm dealing with the same type of nuisance. Some nutsack has bid the Ronde Barber '09 pink captain's patch jersey up over $1580 and still with five days to go. This same guy has won several of the Bucs jerseys that have already been offered by NFL Auctions.
Barber is, seriously, the one and only missing piece of my Bucs collection and I was gonna make a run at this one, but now......definitely not. There isn't a Barber jersey worth that kinda coin, short of his Super Bowl jersey, anywhere.

The whole "people with more money than sense" thing really pisses me off sometimes.

And don't bother with the "it's worth what somebody will pay for it" BS, (no.....it's not), or the "I can do whatever I want with my money" BS, (what are you....5 yrs old?). Those of us with common sense and the need to invest wisely are sick of hearing that crap.

[jhunt28]

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You're smart not to chase this jersey at such a high price. AND you get to keep a jersey on your wish list, and hunt around for it!! That's most of the fun!! I've seen some silly prices paid for jerseys in 2009, but it's only coming from a handful of guys. Once these dozen or so collectors get their Cutlers for $3k, or Sanchez for $20, etc. the market drops DRAMATICALLY after that. Look at the inventory that a certain game used site carries...they sold a handful of big ticket items, and the rest just sits there. I'm not sure what they plan on doing with the inventory? Maybe they will slowly sell it all to auction houses, which will fetch close to real world values(hammer fees still suck)? Maybe they will have a fire sale? But I think you'll see a Barber turn up eventually...you might even see another show up on NFL Auctions towards the end of the year, who knows. But I doubt the guy bidding this up on you will really want to pay for another?

[34swtns]

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Jhunt28, you have a very realistic and reassuring view.
Thanks for sharing your common sense-based opinion, it is indeed a welcome change to some of the nonsense posts I've been reading lately.

[legaleagle92481]

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Don't feel alone, Pats fans. I'm dealing with the same type of nuisance. Some nutsack has bid the Ronde Barber '09 pink captain's patch jersey up over $1580 and still with five days to go. This same guy has won several of the Bucs jerseys that have already been offered by NFL Auctions.
Barber is, seriously, the one and only missing piece of my Bucs collection and I was gonna make a run at this one, but now......definitely not. There isn't a Barber jersey worth that kinda coin, short of his Super Bowl jersey, anywhere.

The whole "people with more money than sense" thing really pisses me off sometimes.

And don't bother with the "it's worth what somebody will pay for it" BS, (no.....it's not), or the "I can do whatever I want with my money" BS, (what are you....5 yrs old?). Those of us with common sense and the need to invest wisely are sick of hearing that crap.

The part that concerns me is what happens when these people decide to sell their collections because they are bored with them and have decided to move onto their next pursuit or they have a sudden need for money or they pass away? It seems unlikely that someone will pay the prices they paid for the items particularly if they are sold at auction on Ebay or something so it really is an artifical market in that respect. This is a huge problem because a handful of people seem to be buying all the big ticket jerseys and hence they essentially control the market and if they are selling the big ticket items for 1/3 or 1/2 of what they pay for them the value of the smaller ticket items also drops, which effects the rest of us.

[clinton2828]

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34,

in regards to your quest for your barber jersey, who is to say that person who is bidding $1,500 was not looking for one for a long time as well. the fact that you could not find a real one for all this time should tell you something about the value of one when you see one.

“The whole "people with more money than sense" thing really pisses me off sometimes”


I really don’t see how productive these threads become when we are either getting pissed about how much money other collectors want to spend or how much another collector is willing to spend. Collecting higher end items is not for everyone and everyone value items differently.

I personally pay perceived higher prices when i buy items in nfl auctions because people including myself will pay more because they know what they are getting is the real deal. You cant put a price on “piece of mind”.

And who sets the price for what game worn items are worth anyway?

auction house , bidders, people on this board ?

what is happening is that people such as yourself and others might be looking at the prices of what jerseys sell at auction houses for and using those closing prices as bench marks which is not really accurate for a couple reason.

1) i would bet over half the items in auction houses are highly questionable if they are game worn and rarely do they provide good documentation or photo matches, so prices for these items are low which is not an accurate reflection on the market price.
2) Prime example how the tomlinson in grey flannel only get about $1200 bucks and the ones from nfl auction get over $5,000


“And don't bother with the "it's worth what somebody will pay for it" BS, (no.....it's not), or the "I can do whatever I want with my money" BS, (what are you....5 yrs old?). Those of us with common sense and the need to invest wisely are sick of hearing that crap.”


This again is another reason why participation on this board is not growing and is actually down from what I see.

“And don't bother with the "it's worth what somebody will pay for it" BS, (no.....it's not), or the

I am not sure what perspective you are coming from because to me if an item sell for $5,000 it is worth $5,000. that’s how things work in the real world. If you try to sell your house for $500,000 and you only get $450,000. well guess what your house is only worth $450,000.

"I can do whatever I want with my money" BS, (what are you....5 yrs old?). Those of us with common sense and the need to invest wisely are sick of hearing that crap.”

You are not contributing to this board by judging what people purchase. This is why people are reluctant to share there collections because of this judgment.
And not everyone is “investing” in the items they buy often times item hold high sentimental value to collectors which is why fans pay more for their favorite players.


AND REMEMBER IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO.

Meaning that in order for that barber jersey to get over $1,500 would mean that there is a person who is outbid who is willing to pay $1490. so it is not just one person who is setting the market prices on these items.

Final point, lets try to keep the discussion on game used items and trying to make this board better to encourage more participation and avoid judging others purchases. It dose no good and will contribute to the declined use of this board.

[34swtns]

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Thanks for your unscolicited tutelage, oh wise guru and sheriff of the forum.

I have a right to my opinion especially if it's in the majority view on a particular subject. You have the right to disagree, however, you have no right to attempt to censor or police the comments and opinions expressed here.

Know your role.