Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

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  • staindsox
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 777

    #46
    Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

    I also wanted to comment on a library/museum's perspective on donations. At first glance, it looks like a good deal. After all, they're getting something for free, right? A lot of people don't see quite how expensive each donation can be.

    Let's take something simple like a book. It costs at least $50-100 for most places to accept a title.

    1) They would have a professional cataloger examine it and create and entry with appropriate classifications and housing location (what use is it if nobody can find it). Even if a cataloger spends 20 minutes with it, that adds up fast.

    2) Security features are added; like taddle tape or microembossing. The books might be processed with a spine label and it might also be encased in a mylar type plastic or get its own archival box. You're paying someone to do all of that, plus the cost of materials.

    3) Then they house it in a climate controlled vault. They only have a certain amount of square footage. The space it uses is an expense.

    4) I don't know what kind of insurance they have, but each addtional item would in theory cost them more here too. Of course this is particularly relevant if the item is of significant value.

    If you wanted to really get granual and start talking about other expenses, your cataloging software, online catalog, computers/server/etc, and security systems are also costs.

    Anyway, I won't argue each expense. Some are a matter of accounting and depreciation and I'm sure I left other costs out, but the general point is, each donation is expensive. That is why they really only try to take items to fill holes in their collection. Even if you have a fantastic item worthy of their collection, they might not take it if they already have something like it.

    Chris
    Always looking for Jack Hannahan or St. Paul Saints gamers:

    www.jackhannahan.webs.com

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    • suicide_squeeze
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1442

      #47
      Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

      OK...no big surprize here.

      Found a copy of my old email. It's the exact same "generic" response that the Hall apparently sends to everyone who inquires or emails them in regards to donations or "loans"....

      I will post the pics of the actual copies, and also provide pdf links which are much easier to read.

      I have blacked out my address and home phone number for obvious reasons.

      First, actual photos of the email, then pdf links:
      Attached Files

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      • sayhey24
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 124

        #48
        Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

        No problem sharing my story, although it's not too exciting. I'm just a collector who noticed back when the Hall put together an exhibit highlighting Ichiro breaking George Sisler's hit record, that they used a replica or post career Sisler bat in the display (it was identified as such -- I just can't remember which it was). At the time I mentioned to someone there that I had a Sisler gamer and would have gladly loaned it. I contacted the Hall after the Southworth/Gossage/Williams election and offered bats of all three, and they asked for the two.
        My guess is the loans primarily are accepted for the displays of new inductees-- those displays are temporary -- they're only up for one year until the next group of new inductees is honored.

        Happy Thanksgiving to all!

        Greg

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        • Swoboda4
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 1621

          #49
          Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

          I think the idea of this thread is to SHOW what item of yours is believed to be HOF worthy. When it was mentioned early on that this is a great thread,it was in anticipation of some interesting photos to come. Not to debate whether there is a loan policy in effect at the HOF.

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          • suicide_squeeze
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 1442

            #50
            Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

            Originally posted by sayhey24
            No problem sharing my story, although it's not too exciting. I'm just a collector who noticed back when the Hall put together an exhibit highlighting Ichiro breaking George Sisler's hit record, that they used a replica or post career Sisler bat in the display (it was identified as such -- I just can't remember which it was). At the time I mentioned to someone there that I had a Sisler gamer and would have gladly loaned it. I contacted the Hall after the Southworth/Gossage/Williams election and offered bats of all three, and they asked for the two.
            My guess is the loans primarily are accepted for the displays of new inductees-- those displays are temporary -- they're only up for one year until the next group of new inductees is honored.

            Happy Thanksgiving to all!

            Greg

            Greg, thanks for sharing. Interesting concept, and you very well may be right. Did you supply "photos" of your bats of Williams and Gossage when you asked the Hall if they wanted to borrow all three? Again, just curious.

            And guys, the reason I am curious is this:

            At the time I asked the question to the Hall, I had just bought one of the most significant bats on the face of the earth (not my opinion....the opinion of many baseball historians who have aired it out on threads everywhere). The bat marked the end......the finale.......of the most hallowed career in the annuls of baseball history....perhaps sports history in general. The Babe's last at-bat game used bat, dropped by him on his gallop to first base, and after being thrown out, picked up off the field by the Boston Braves #4 hitter (behind Babe in the line-up), Wally Berger.

            Wally idolized the Babe, and it was a dream-come-true for him when Ruth was signed for what was to be his last hoorah on the Braves. As most of you know, he signed because he believed the deal was the first step in becoming manager of a Major League team, something the Babe always wanted to do upon retired from active play. When he figured out that wasn't to be the case, he was unhappy, grounded out using this very bat and while walking back into the dug-out uttered the imfamous words "I quit".

            Wally asked him, with the bat still in his hand, if he could keep the Babe's bat as a momento. Babe, being the ever-so-gracious giver he was said "Sure kid, keep it".

            Wally kept the bat until the day he died, which has been attested to by his wife. She eventually gave the bat to Barry Halper, and the rest is history.

            Can you guys understand how I could come to the conclusion that the Hall of Fame, after turning down the "loan" of this bat, must have meant they don't do loans, period?

            I mean, I wasn't offering them some piece of insignificant garbage only made valuable between my ears because I owned it??? They sent me a freaking FORM response to that offer, explaining ......well, you guys can read it below. It speaks for itself.....the very same wording express34 (Chris) posted.

            So Greg, your "theory" just may be correct.....if the item fits the present-day need, the rules get lax.....I understand it completely.

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            • suicide_squeeze
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 1442

              #51
              Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

              Originally posted by Swoboda4
              I think the idea of this thread is to SHOW what item of yours is believed to be HOF worthy. When it was mentioned early on that this is a great thread,it was in anticipation of some interesting photos to come. Not to debate whether there is a loan policy in effect at the HOF.
              Swo,

              Agreed, and I plan on posting a few (finally) sometime this weekend.

              But is there a problem with adding a comment directly associated to the thread? Is it so necessary to have tunnel vision on ever topic?

              I think the comments, taken as whatever you want to take them to mean, have actually added to the quality of this thread in addition to the pictures of all the great stuff. I know I feel I've learned something by it.

              So relax.....it's all good.

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              • sayhey24
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 124

                #52
                Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                Squeeze -- I totally understand your line of thinking. I do believe I emailed photos initially, although I can't be 100 % sure of that.
                Your bat is absolutely unbelievable -- you could build your own Hall with that as the centerpiece!

                Greg

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                • suicide_squeeze
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1442

                  #53
                  Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                  Originally posted by sayhey24
                  Squeeze -- I totally understand your line of thinking. I do believe I emailed photos initially, although I can't be 100 % sure of that.
                  Your bat is absolutely unbelievable -- you could build your own Hall with that as the centerpiece!

                  Greg
                  Thanks Greg......and I forgot to wish you and everyone here a Happy Thanksgiving as well.

                  Regards,

                  Steve

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                  • xpress34
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2648

                    #54
                    Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                    Steve (SS)... just for future Reference, it's Xpress34, not Express34...

                    As far as HOF Worthy items - and after reading the Baseball HOF letter regarding donations, I might offer them a VERY significant piece for the Colorado Rockies 'locker'...

                    I own a GU Seth Smith World Series Hat:



                    It is significant because the Rox wore their Purple Bill caps in Game 4 - the Final Game of their 1st World Series appearance - and Seth Smith was the FINAL OUT of the Series.

                    I have LOA from the Rox and all and I only have a small investment in the hat that would be more than worth a HOF Cert in my collection as well as a Lifetime Pass from the Hall...

                    The only thing that is holding me back is that Smith is also my last name and Seth is a really nice guy with a lot of upside potential... but, I have also shopped the hat to a few 'Ole Miss' alums as well... in fact, good Rockies trivia here:

                    A lot of people know that Peyton manning started as Todd Helton's backup as QB at Tennessee... did you know that Seth Smith was Eli manning's backup QB at Ole' Miss?

                    - Chris

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                    • BoneRubbedBat
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 484

                      #55
                      Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                      Carl Crawford's very first MLB game-used glove. Autographed and inscribed by Crawford stating that fact. Also has LOA from Crawford.
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                      Always looking for vintage game used bats of Houston Buffs and Colt .45's players.

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                      • joelsabi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 3073

                        #56
                        Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                        Originally posted by xpress34
                        Steve (SS)... just for future Reference, it's Xpress34, not Express34...

                        in fact, good Rockies trivia here:

                        A lot of people know that Peyton manning started as Todd Helton's backup as QB at Tennessee... did you know that Seth Smith was Eli manning's backup QB at Ole' Miss?

                        - Chris
                        Cool. Beer bet material.
                        Regards,
                        Joel S.
                        joelsabi @ gmail.com
                        Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                        • karamaxjoe
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 651

                          #57
                          Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                          Originally posted by Swoboda4
                          Only two I think. Detroit's Davy Jones letter to author Lawrence Ritter thanking him for sharing profits from his book,"The Glory of Their Times"

                          Wow, that is a great piece and beautifully displayed. I wish I could find the same kind of letter from Jimmy Austin to Ritter.
                          Mike

                          Looking for any White Sox jersey from Richie Zisk.

                          My website - http://www.freewebs.com/karamaxjoe/

                          "There are only two seasons - winter and Baseball"
                          ~ Bill Veeck

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                          • Swoboda4
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1621

                            #58
                            Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                            Mike,thanks. The Ritter estate placed many of Mr.Ritters letters on e-bay a year or so ago. They surface every so often. Just about every player mentioned in the book received a check from Ritter and sent a thank you letter.

                            (suicide,nothing wrong about adding to a topic. Sorry about that. But the side dishes out-weighed the main course by a factor of 4)

                            HALL OF FAME WORTHY?-Letters from players thankfull,some in dire straits,in need of a card show to live,showing disparity in income of past stars.(VanDerMeer is appreciative, McLain is desparate,and an elderly NY Giant, Joe Moore being asked to come to his first card show is hoping not to disappoint)




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                            • sylbry
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 936

                              #59
                              Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                              Originally posted by Swoboda4
                              Mike,thanks. The Ritter estate placed many of Mr.Ritters letters on e-bay a year or so ago. They surface every so often. Just about every player mentioned in the book received a check from Ritter and sent a thank you letter.
                              Not to change the subject but I have a Christmas card from Harry Hooper to Ritter.
                              Attached Files
                              Wanted: Minnesota Twins throwback or special event jerseys.

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                              • Swoboda4
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 1621

                                #60
                                Re: Any Item In Your Collection HOF Worthy?

                                sylbry,almost all the players mentioned in Ritter's book were eternally gratefull and your letter is an example of that.

                                HOCKEY HOF WORTHY: game used stick of HOF'er Rod Gibert 1973-74 season(and Derek Sanderson's) with the NY Rangers. Gilbert had 406 lifetime goals.



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