note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

[BULBUS]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

reid, actually, i'll probably never buy a yankees jersey again without a steiner letter. having bought several items from steiner and being in their yankees cage, the bulk of their inventory seems to be from 2000 and on. this is just my opinion and because what is going on in the hobby (all the questionable items in these auctions), i cant buy something that i will stare at and wonder if it is real or not. i will pay the extra cash to get the real deal from steiner, and i'm sure that is what they are banking on when they ask for their high prices. the peice of mind is worth it. i know that you have/had some yankees jerseys without the steiner letter, but unless they have a letter from the player, sorry, i will not be purchasing any. its just way too easy to fake yankees jerseys. i'm not saying that yours are fake, but i wont take the chance that you may have been deceived, as so many are in this hobby. again, these are just my personal opinions and feelings.

regarding meigray, i'm not sure about their process, but as we have seen recently, its real easy to bust someone that is trying to sell something as game used when it is actually game issued. not so easy with the yankees jerseys.

[sportscentury]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

BULBUS,

I agree with you that you need to buy what you feel comfortable with ... I wouldn't spend a dime on a jersey that I had any question about either.

I found out today that Steiner will sometimes "authenticate" items that come from collectors, so I am learning more and more about this process all the time. I bought a couple of items years ago from Steiner but haven't done much business with them in recent years (mostly because I just can't afford the prices, not because they do not have nice inventory). So, I am not as familiar with their operations as I am with those of some other companies, such as MeiGray.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the Rangers versus Yankees issue, though. The Rangers have serial numbered strip tags sewn into their jerseys - until another team starts keeping track of their gamers via serial-numbered tagging, I will continue to view the Rangers as having the "tightest grip" on their uniforms.

Thanks for the posts.

Best,
Reid

[trsent]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Reid, I recall that Steiner took over in 2004 and really did not get rolling until the 2005 season. So, anything 2004 and before when Steiner took over could theoretically be out there without a Steiner certificate. How could someone say a 2000 Yankees jerseys has to have a Steiner certificate when Steiner did not even have a deal with the Yankees until 2003 or 2004?

I also heard that when Steiner did their initial inventory from the Yankees, that tons of stuff pre-1996 was not even there.

Also, has anyone seen Steiner sell team-issued blank jerseys other than size 42 or 44? I have not. No player could even wear that small of size. If they started selling big sizes then I would for see a problem. If Steiner had big sizes, why wouldn't they just number them for the star players and make more money? Then again, isn't it still considered team issued if Steiner numbered them?

[BULBUS]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

reid, its sad, but i'm not comfortable collecting much these days. as far as steiner selling third party authenticated items, i'm not down with that. that is not what their business is about. i know business' have to adapt to survive, but i dont think they have to go in that direction.

i think the yankees have a tight grip, remember mariano's cousin ruben? he was kicked off the team for stealing jeters stuff and selling it for a couple grand

[BULBUS]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

i guess i'm off someones ignore list i knew you couldnt stay out of this one. you address the post to reid, but then you cant help but take jabs at my OPINION. but when you sell those yankees "pro-cut" jerseys, i guess you are going to have a problem with my opinion.

and YES, they did sell larger sizes in the blank game issued jerseys. they are sold out! i wonder where they are today????

[suave1477]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

I also have to agree with Bulbus they did sell large size blank Game Issued jerseys!!1

[suave1477]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Bulbus also makes a good point, that is true when ruben did sell out the back door Jeters stuff they did kick him off the team.

The funnier part about the story is they got rid of Ruben Sierra so they can keep Ruben Rivera, then Rivera does that stupidness and they had to call back Ruben Sierra.
I know Sierra must have been pissed!!
Sierra must have said to himself you got rid of me for this clown and now you want me back????????

[BarryMeisel]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Hi everybody,

MeiGray does not add the tags afterwards.

The tags are sewn in and the numbers are logged by the Rangers during the season. The team also logs the serial numbers of jerseys distributed to charities, etc., before we acquire and register into our database the available inventory that we market.

Hope this helps,
Barry Meisel, MGG

[eGameUsed]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Barry,

I have had a few of the 2005 Rangers Home jerseys with Red Cross patch on the chest. The 3 I have owned did not have Rangers tagging. Did those miss the tagging from your knowledge?

Thanks,

[sportscentury]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Hi everybody,

MeiGray does not add the tags afterwards.

The tags are sewn in and the numbers are logged by the Rangers during the season. The team also logs the serial numbers of jerseys distributed to charities, etc., before we acquire and register into our database the available inventory that we market.

Hope this helps,
Barry Meisel, MGG

Barry,

Thanks. I was 99.9% sure of this, but I appreciate the confirmation. Because no other team tracks their gamers via serial-numbered tagging, the Rangers are the model to be followed. Folks are welcome to think as they like, but it would be very hard to persuade me otherwise.

With that said, I genuinely appreciate everyone's posts and I've learned a bunch from this thread.

Also, I want to state for the record that I do not regularly sell Steiner-certified game used items; I did not post anything in this thread in order to offend or irritate forum members who do regularly sell Steiner-certified items. In fact, I wish these folks the best in their business endeavors.

Thanks,

Reid

[sportscentury]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Barry,

I have had a few of the 2005 Rangers Home jerseys with Red Cross patch on the chest. The 3 I have owned did not have Rangers tagging. Did those miss the tagging from your knowledge?

Thanks,

Chris,

Were they Set 3 jerseys?

Reid

[BarryMeisel]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Chris,

I cannot answer that question authoritatively yet, since we did not yet receive the Rangers' 2005 inventory.

Once I have that information, I will respond.

Regards,

Barry

[trsent]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Funny, I received a phone call that Bulbus and Jason were on my case for my comments about the Steiner Yankees jersey.

Just understand that the reason these two users are on my ignore list (by the way, ignore lists are used on this forum a user cannot read certain user's posts) is because they cannot have a conversation without jumping all over the person with the other side. I just find it funny that people call me to tell me comments made by users such as these who cannot have an adult conversation because they have to be right without allowing two sides to a story.

Also, it is none of either of your business what articles I sell, it has nothing to do with my posts which are based on my memory of the history of Steiner's agreement of working with The Yankees. I could sell the items in question or not (which right now I am out of stock of anyway) and it shouldn't mean that if I post constructive comments that they should be attacked because I may have a personal interest in similar items.

[suave1477]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Well TRSENT IS MISINFORMED AND THATS FINE TOO BAD HE CAN READ WHAT IM WRITING NOW!!

Not once did I jump all over TRSENTS comments the only thing that I stated was that Steiner did sell big sized jerseys.

So who ever called TRSENT should call him right back and say they made a mistake by mentioning my name in it!!!

[s.carter]

Re: note to steiner : STOP SELLING BLANK TEAM ISSUED YANKS JERSEY!

Just have to chime in here on some incorrect info I read here, Steiner does not authenticate third party items. That is about as incorrect as can be. Having dealt with them and speaking to their reps I can say 100% Steiner Sports only authenticates items signed in the prescence of one of their company representatives. As for game used they have everything authenticated through Deloitte and Touche and the MLB program as it is pulled off the field. Anything they sell that is third party is usually authenticated through JSA or PSA/DNA. Just had to chime in there.