prices for Jeter game jerseys

[pungent]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

They don't write on the jerseys, but they both custom stitch themselves their numbering system (like Miegray) or like JO, the date of game used/which game.

And guess what, they actually keep their authentication #'s in their own database! Booo Steiner!

I've seen a couple of MeiGray jerseys with a rectangular stamp stating the jersey was game issued and not worn (though maybe it was the team that did that prior to providing them to MeiGray for authentication). I also see several jerseys on JO that are game issued and have that written on the size/year swatch on the back collar, again that might have been the team that wrote that prior to giving them the sets.

I was already aware of these issues surrounding Steiner's system of tracking their inventory, which is why I decided to purchase the Jeter game issued jersey directly from them even though it was a steep price. In exchange though, at least I have a peace of mind knowing my article is genuine, unlike the unfortunate ones who've squandered their hard earned money on what's being shamefully sold on Ebay.

[sportscentury]

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They should do what Meigray and JO do, they have much better systems.

MeiGray's system is far superior. They back everything up with photomatching and they track each serial-tagged item in their system that they update instantly upon receipt of all items (and often before items have even been received). There really isn't another system in the industry that compares.

[nickacs]

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you mean stamp or write on the jersey that it is game issued and not worn?

They don't write on the jerseys, but they both custom stitch themselves their numbering system (like Miegray) or like JO, the date of game used/which game.

And guess what, they actually keep their authentication #'s in their own database! Booo Steiner!

[pungent]

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They should do what Meigray and JO do, they have much better systems.

you mean stamp or write on the jersey that it is game issued and not worn?

[legaleagle92481]

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I don't really fault Steiner in this area with affixing holograms because there aren't really many places on a baseball jersey you could place one without having it eventually fall off (only places I think would work is with the paper tagginges, e.g. 0062 wash tags or year designation flag tags). The problem is probably also true of other items with holograms placed on cloth, all you need to do if flex the surrounding area a couple of times and the hologram will fall off without being broken or appearance of tampering with.

They should do what Meigray and JO do, they have much better systems.

[pungent]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

I don't really fault Steiner in this area with affixing holograms because there aren't really many places on a baseball jersey you could place one without having it eventually fall off (only places I think would work is with the paper tagginges, e.g. 0062 wash tags or year designation flag tags). The problem is probably also true of other items with holograms placed on cloth, all you need to do if flex the surrounding area a couple of times and the hologram will fall off without being broken or appearance of tampering with.

[sportscentury]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

I'll be honest, when I received the jersey the hologram on the jocktagging was pretty loose so I gently removed it and placed it on the LOA in proximity to the other hologram directly below Brandon Steiner's signature. Both have matching numbers and are "Game Issued' Steiner holograms. I chose not to show this part of the LOA so as to not misrepresent the condition the jersey and LOA were originally received.

The story with Steiner stuff gets better with each post. Loose and transferable holograms? So much for "tamper-proof." If I collected this stuff, I would be darn to quick to make sure the stuff photo-matched before I added it to my PC.

[pungent]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

I'll be honest, when I received the jersey the hologram on the jocktagging was pretty loose so I gently removed it and placed it on the LOA in proximity to the other hologram directly below Brandon Steiner's signature. Both have matching numbers and are "Game Issued' Steiner holograms. I chose not to show this part of the LOA so as to not misrepresent the condition the jersey and LOA were originally received.

[legaleagle92481]

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I recently purchased a Jeter game issued jersey directly from Steiner Sports and while there was no MLB Authenticated hologram, they did note on the LOA the number/letters found on the tag attached to the top button of the jersey. I'm unsure if this tagging, which is attached to a string and tied around the button, was initially placed by the Yankees or by Steiner Sports.

There should be a Steiner hologram on the jersey and on the part of the letter that is cut off in the scan.

[pungent]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

I recently purchased a Jeter game issued jersey directly from Steiner Sports and while there was no MLB Authenticated hologram, they did note on the LOA the number/letters found on the tag attached to the top button of the jersey. I'm unsure if this tagging, which is attached to a string and tied around the button, was initially placed by the Yankees or by Steiner Sports.

[sportscentury]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

Here is the thread on this. http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=33860. I was not saying you were trying to make a point I just wanted to point out to anyone who saw the link and was considering buying the jersey and who may have missed the other thread that the missing letter was a red flag. Steiner does not sell g/u and g/i items without a letter. For the Yankees the letter is on Yankees-Steiner leaderhead and a hologram corresponding to the one on the item is below Brandon Steiner's printed signature on the letter.

Legal: thanks for your note. I went and read the very similar thread in the auctions section. This is a good case in point for combining the auctions and game used sections (there are relatively few auction threads, they get relatively little traffic, and they all discuss game used material/items).

But back to the topic at hand. If this guy is making star player jerseys out of blanks, then my first question is: Why would Steiner issue blanks with serial-numbered holograms? Does anyone think this is nuts besides me? Steiner issues game worn, game issued, and blank jerseys, all with serial-numbered holograms, and then has no tracking system for the serial numbers? That is absolutely crazy. It's even crazier to think that Steiner is re-issuing letters in cases of "lost letters." If this is all true, then you can buy a blank from Steiner, make it into a star jersey, and then have Steiner "re-issue" a letter stating that it is a game worn superster jersey. I must be missing something here - this is simply too nuts to be true.

[legaleagle92481]

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I didn't post the auction link to make a point. It was just as FYI in case the other fellow was searching for a cheap one.

As to your comment, can't a person just call Steiner with the hologram serial number and find out if it is an authentic Jeter World Series issued game jersey? If so, then there should be no problem. If not, then that is pretty pathetic on Steiner's part. I would imagine that they have some kind of tracking/inventory system at this point, no?

If it is not a Jeter World Series issued game jersey, then what do you think it is? I'm asking this honestly as I haven't followed Steiner products for some time now, and I have no idea what their Yankee product line includes.

And are there a lot of these Steiner Yankee jerseys with holograms but no letters? If so, why?

Here is the thread on this. http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=33860. I was not saying you were trying to make a point I just wanted to point out to anyone who saw the link and was considering buying the jersey and who may have missed the other thread that the missing letter was a red flag. Steiner does not sell g/u and g/i items without a letter. For the Yankees the letter is on Yankees-Steiner leaderhead and a hologram corresponding to the one on the item is below Brandon Steiner's printed signature on the letter.

[nickacs]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

As to your comment, can't a person just call Steiner with the hologram serial number and find out if it is an authentic Jeter World Series issued game jersey? If so, then there should be no problem. If not, then that is pretty pathetic on Steiner's part. I would imagine that they have some kind of tracking/inventory system at this point, no?

Unfortunately, yes, this is the case and definitely stupid and irresponsible on Steiner's part. I've contacted them twice in the last 4 months about two Yankee star player jerseys that had holograms and wanted to confirm their authenticity and was told simply "We don't keep any records of them".

So, to me, the hologram#'s are basically worthless if they can never be traced back to their origination.

[sportscentury]

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This one does not have a cOA which ties in with the other post about Steiner GU/GI items coming with a letter of authenticity from steiner in addition to the hologram and of the people on Ebay selling "steiner" GI jerseys without COAS, particularly of major Yankees stars. In my opinion for this reason the jersey is suspect.

I didn't post the auction link to make a point. It was just as FYI in case the other fellow was searching for a cheap one.

As to your comment, can't a person just call Steiner with the hologram serial number and find out if it is an authentic Jeter World Series issued game jersey? If so, then there should be no problem. If not, then that is pretty pathetic on Steiner's part. I would imagine that they have some kind of tracking/inventory system at this point, no?

If it is not a Jeter World Series issued game jersey, then what do you think it is? I'm asking this honestly as I haven't followed Steiner products for some time now, and I have no idea what their Yankee product line includes.

And are there a lot of these Steiner Yankee jerseys with holograms but no letters? If so, why?

[legaleagle92481]

Re: prices for Jeter game jerseys

BIN is $750:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-NY-Yankees-...item3efdde4808

This one does not have a cOA which ties in with the other post about Steiner GU/GI items coming with a letter of authenticity from steiner in addition to the hologram and of the people on Ebay selling "steiner" GI jerseys without COAS, particularly of major Yankees stars. In my opinion for this reason the jersey is suspect.