JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

[reed1216]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I've purchased from JO Sports and couldn't be happier with my items. In fact, of my 7 Bears jeresys, 4 are authenticated and came from JO Sports, 2 came from Game Exclusives (2006 Briggs and a 2006 Muhammad) and the other is a circa 1986 Neal Anderson that's beaten to high hell. While the Muhammad had relatively few marks on it, it was used in a game where he caught just one pass, against the Cardinals in the classic MNF game. The Briggs is easily photomatched to the 2006 game versus the Giants.

Each of the 4 jerseys purchased from JO Sports were easily photomatched (2009 J. Cutler, 2007 T. Harris, 2007 C. Benson and a 2007 B. Berrian). I purchased the Cutler and the Harris directly from them at their asking prices and while the prices were on the high side, even with my starting salary as a therapist/social worker (while finishing my last semester of graduate school), they were worth every penny to me.

I did get the Benson from GUU Auctions and the Berrian from an EBay seller for significantly less than what JO Sports was asking. When I bought the Cutler for $2500, I was concerned that I overpaid. However, within a week of buying it, the white one they had for sale was purchased and one the was sold through NFL auctions went for exactly $2500, the same prices JO Sports was asking for theirs.

While these prices do seem high, the quality pieces are selling. I am soooo glad I pulled the trigger on my Cutler jersey now. He's bound to improve upon last year's performance and I believe he has the potential to be among the best QBs in the NFL, provided he gets a receiver, or two that can run a route and catch the ball.

As far as I'm concerned, people are going to pay what they're going to pay. If you want quality pieces that are iron clad in their authenticity, JO Sports is a great source. Their customer service is amazing and I'd rank them right there with MeiGray as the best dealers in the hobby.

[gatorcollector]

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I've purchased 2 jerseys from JO and have been very pleased. The first was a Ciatrick Fason Vikings jersey for $250. Did I overpay for that? Sure. But he's the last 1,000 yard rusher for the Gators, and the peace of mind in dealing with JO is worth something. The other one I bought was a 2007 Alex Brown Bears jersey. It was listed at $1000 for a long time, but when they dropped it to $750 I pulled the trigger. Too high? Maybe. But now I have a jersey of UF's all time sack leader. Both jerseys show awesome use and the Brown is photomatched.

It's all about what you're willing to pay and JO's cash flow. If they need a cash infusion to close deals with new teams, you might see some markdowns to get those jerseys selling.

[zooat2]

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I've purchased 2 jerseys from JO and have been very pleased. The first was a Ciatrick Fason Vikings jersey for $250. Did I overpay for that? Sure. But he's the last 1,000 yard rusher for the Gators, and the peace of mind in dealing with JO is worth something. The other one I bought was a 2007 Alex Brown Bears jersey. It was listed at $1000 for a long time, but when they dropped it to $750 I pulled the trigger. Too high? Maybe. But now I have a jersey of UF's all time sack leader. Both jerseys show awesome use and the Brown is photomatched.

It's all about what you're willing to pay and JO's cash flow. If they need a cash infusion to close deals with new teams, you might see some markdowns to get those jerseys selling.

- $250 for an AUTHENTIC GAME USED NFL jersey is NOT a lot of money, considering if you just buy a generic authentic jersey on NFL.com your gonna pay $400....

[legaleagle92481]

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- $250 for an AUTHENTIC GAME USED NFL jersey is NOT a lot of money, considering if you just buy a generic authentic jersey on NFL.com your gonna pay $400....

Exactly. And the point that is lost on alot of people is that this stuff is luxury items not necessary items as is anything else sports related.

[skinsfan0521]

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I agree that $250 for a jersey isn't a lot of money. My point earlier was that (for Redskins ONLY), there is no option to get a starter (or even somebody who has played sparingly in the past few years) for under $400. That, to me, is crazy.

[indyred]

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I agree that $250 for a jersey isn't a lot of money. My point earlier was that (for Redskins ONLY), there is no option to get a starter (or even somebody who has played sparingly in the past few years) for under $400. That, to me, is crazy.

JO Sports has a bunch of Redskins at $400 and under. Some in low mid $200's.

http://www.josportsco.com/list_products.asp?CatID=0&TeamID=6000000&SubID=7000000&Page=3

[skinsfan0521]

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JO Sports has a bunch of Redskins at $400 and under. Some in low mid $200's.
http://www.josportsco.com/list_produ...7000000&Page=3

I'm aware that they have some... my issue is that they have Brandon Lloyd and Adam Archuletta jerseys for $240. Those guys are bums and they've got their jerseys for $240. That's just a joke.

As I said earlier, I don't disagree with their prices for "star" players because when you've got items from a star, you can charge whatever you want because the demand is there. But when you're trying to sell jerseys of hacks for several hundred dollars, that's where you lose me. And, again, they must have a good reason to do it, and it seems to be working out well for them. I'm just saying that's why I haven't (and probably won't unless things change) bought anything from them. Not because of quality or authenticity or customer service or anything like that... simply price.

[bigben7]

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Skinsfan,

I would glady purchase any bums on the Steelers for $240. That seems like a great price for a game used jersey.

[indyred]

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I'm aware that they have some... my issue is that they have Brandon Lloyd and Adam Archuletta jerseys for $240. Those guys are bums and they've got their jerseys for $240. That's just a joke.

As I said earlier, I don't disagree with their prices for "star" players because when you've got items from a star, you can charge whatever you want because the demand is there. But when you're trying to sell jerseys of hacks for several hundred dollars, that's where you lose me. And, again, they must have a good reason to do it, and it seems to be working out well for them. I'm just saying that's why I haven't (and probably won't unless things change) bought anything from them. Not because of quality or authenticity or customer service or anything like that... simply price.

They have Jansen, Thomas, Griffin, Marcus Washington all under $400. Those guys were all starters and decent players. $220 for even scrub player is pretty good deal. When you know it's a legit gamer sourced from the team with wear team letter ect.

[hrvatwill]

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Don't know if anybody noticed, but somebody came in yesterday and bought every single remaining Steelers item, which I think consisted of three jerseys and three helmets........

[34swtns]

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$220 for even scrub player is pretty good deal. When you know it's a legit gamer sourced from the team with wear team letter ect.

Not true. There are boatloads of game used NFL jerseys that hit the market that aren't even worth $100. The players just don't pull decent prices. They just don't.
And you can't use the comparison that any gamer should be worth a couple hundred bucks because retail authentics cost even more. It's apples to oranges, two different products, two different target buyers.
Let me preface this by saying I've had dealings with and made satisfactory purchases from JO Sports. While I've never gotten what I would consider to be "a bargain" from them I will say that they were at least willing to negotiate with me in order to make an item's price more realistic.
I collect Bears gamers and Buccaneers gamers. There are tons of Bucs gamers that become available every year from players past and present that barely break the $200 mark. That's accepted among those of us who are knowledgeable regarding Bucs equipment. You pay more than a couple bills for a Bucs jersey and you'd better really like it because you may not get your money back out of it. At the same time, we see Bears jerseys belonging to B-listers and guys who are no longer with the team for sale for twice what a similar Bucs jersey would sell for. Other than the fact that it's from a more desirable team, a typical example of these Bears jerseys are still realistically worth around $200-250....tops. The resale market proves it every time.
I've bought and sold more examples of these than I could possibly count.
Unless it's a star player, these lesser players' jerseys just don't maintain their value.......at all. If you're able to control the market to the point where you can get $400-500 for one-year players and traded/cut players then you, sir, have hit the lottery. Regardless of all the team paperwork, COA's, wearmarks, photomatching and whatever bells and whistles you can attach to a jersey, in the real world some of these are not now nor will they ever be worth more than $200. Period.
If you're able to command more than that amount for them, God bless you, you're clearly an example of the American dream at it's finest.
There will be cheerleaders and others who will attempt to present an argument to the contrary, but those of us who are truly knowledgeable in the buying and re-selling of these items with the intention of not losing money know that there is none.
While I commend JO Sports for organizing a successful and badly-needed venue in which to market an item which has not previously been marketed on such a scale, I would like to see some issues in regards to the pricing of these less desirable jerseys. We all watch them sit in their inventory for months for a reason. Price them to move and they'll move, I promise you that, and I certainly hope that with their new plan to work with the members of this forum they will be working towards that end.

[skinsfan0521]

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Not true. There are boatloads of game used NFL jerseys that hit the market that aren't even worth $100. The players just don't pull decent prices. They just don't.
And you can't use the comparison that any gamer should be worth a couple hundred bucks because retail authentics cost even more. It's apples to oranges, two different products, two different target buyers.
Let me preface this by saying I've had dealings with and made satisfactory purchases from JO Sports. While I've never gotten what I would consider to be "a bargain" from them I will say that they were at least willing to negotiate with me in order to make an item's price more realistic.
I collect Bears gamers and Buccaneers gamers. There are tons of Bucs gamers that become available every year from players past and present that barely break the $200 mark. That's accepted among those of us who are knowledgeable regarding Bucs equipment. You pay more than a couple bills for a Bucs jersey and you'd better really like it because you may not get your money back out of it. At the same time, we see Bears jerseys belonging to B-listers and guys who are no longer with the team for sale for twice what a similar Bucs jersey would sell for. Other than the fact that it's from a more desirable team, a typical example of these Bears jerseys are still realistically worth around $200-250....tops. The resale market proves it every time.
I've bought and sold more examples of these than I could possibly count.
Unless it's a star player, these lesser players' jerseys just don't maintain their value.......at all. If you're able to control the market to the point where you can get $400-500 for one-year players and traded/cut players then you, sir, have hit the lottery. Regardless of all the team paperwork, COA's, wearmarks, photomatching and whatever bells and whistles you can attach to a jersey, in the real world some of these are not now nor will they ever be worth more than $200. Period.
If you're able to command more than that amount for them, God bless you, you're clearly an example of the American dream at it's finest.
There will be cheerleaders and others who will attempt to present an argument to the contrary, but those of us who are truly knowledgeable in the buying and re-selling of these items with the intention of not losing money know that there is none.
While I commend JO Sports for organizing a successful and badly-needed venue in which to market an item which has not previously been marketed on such a scale, I would like to see some issues in regards to the pricing of these less desirable jerseys. We all watch them sit in their inventory for months for a reason. Price them to move and they'll move, I promise you that, and I certainly hope that with their new plan to work with the members of this forum they will be working towards that end.

While I'm not somebody who's in the market to buy & resell equipment, I completely agree with everything you've said.

Just cuz somebody will buy the scrub jerseys for $400, doesn't mean that they'll ever sell for that again. I can almost guarantee you that if you put any of those jerseys on eBay, they'd get 1/2 the price at best.

I completely agree with your statements about JO Sports as well... I also commend them for their business and the success of it, I just don't think that it helps out the "average" collector. It certainly caters to the high end, star jerseys, but it doesn't help to make game used equipment to the "average joe" for a reasonable price. I don't understand either how it helps them out when they just sit on inventory. The #1 rule of business is to turnover inventory... and that doesn't happen quickly with JO.

I also agree that with this newly announced plan to work with GUU members, I hope that they give us reasonable prices. Since I don't go for the superstar jerseys, I don't care if they offer a discount on them, I'm just hoping for them to bring their prices down to reasonable levels for the jerseys of semi-stars that have been sitting on the shelves for a couple years.

[legaleagle92481]

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Not true. There are boatloads of game used NFL jerseys that hit the market that aren't even worth $100. The players just don't pull decent prices. They just don't.
And you can't use the comparison that any gamer should be worth a couple hundred bucks because retail authentics cost even more. It's apples to oranges, two different products, two different target buyers.
Let me preface this by saying I've had dealings with and made satisfactory purchases from JO Sports. While I've never gotten what I would consider to be "a bargain" from them I will say that they were at least willing to negotiate with me in order to make an item's price more realistic.
I collect Bears gamers and Buccaneers gamers. There are tons of Bucs gamers that become available every year from players past and present that barely break the $200 mark. That's accepted among those of us who are knowledgeable regarding Bucs equipment. You pay more than a couple bills for a Bucs jersey and you'd better really like it because you may not get your money back out of it. At the same time, we see Bears jerseys belonging to B-listers and guys who are no longer with the team for sale for twice what a similar Bucs jersey would sell for. Other than the fact that it's from a more desirable team, a typical example of these Bears jerseys are still realistically worth around $200-250....tops. The resale market proves it every time.
I've bought and sold more examples of these than I could possibly count.
Unless it's a star player, these lesser players' jerseys just don't maintain their value.......at all. If you're able to control the market to the point where you can get $400-500 for one-year players and traded/cut players then you, sir, have hit the lottery. Regardless of all the team paperwork, COA's, wearmarks, photomatching and whatever bells and whistles you can attach to a jersey, in the real world some of these are not now nor will they ever be worth more than $200. Period.
If you're able to command more than that amount for them, God bless you, you're clearly an example of the American dream at it's finest.
There will be cheerleaders and others who will attempt to present an argument to the contrary, but those of us who are truly knowledgeable in the buying and re-selling of these items with the intention of not losing money know that there is none.
While I commend JO Sports for organizing a successful and badly-needed venue in which to market an item which has not previously been marketed on such a scale, I would like to see some issues in regards to the pricing of these less desirable jerseys. We all watch them sit in their inventory for months for a reason. Price them to move and they'll move, I promise you that, and I certainly hope that with their new plan to work with the members of this forum they will be working towards that end.

well the bears are a national level team on par with the steelers and cowboys with a rich history dating back years before any of us were born. they have had some of the most beloved players in history sayers, payton, butkus, etc. the bucs on the other hand are more limited to regional appeal and even their stars like brooks and sapp are extremely underrated. so i can see bears jerseys going for alot more than bucs jerseys just like yankees jerseys sell for much more than marlins jerseys. that being said most jerseys are a bad investment. nonstars will be forgotten for the most part and there will be a limited market for their stuff at any price in 20 years. star players are a bad investment also because sometimes they burn out short of immortal status ie shaun alexander, jamal lewis, eddie george, daunte culpepper and on and on and despite solid careers those who bought their stuff when they looked on the road to canton being forced to sell at a price that reflects their total career rather than their high peak. and even the ones that do not burn out are replaced in the spotlight by the next big thing with very limited exceptions and that along with a supply that is unprecedented will cause a drop in prices. it happened with cards and autographs. i only collect the stars so as i have posted i dont have a problem with jo's prices i am just glad to have them made available to me and overall their prices i feel are fair at this time with a few exceptions as with any company. but i am not looking at it as an investment just to enjoy my items and im cool with taking a loss if i ever decide to sell my items as i have done with the autographs i have sold and a few jerseys i have unloaded.

[sportscentury]

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Skinsfan,

I would glady purchase any bums on the Steelers for $240. That seems like a great price for a game used jersey.

Bigben7 -- Welcome to the forum! I hope you don't mind me asking, but after reading your first two GUU posts in this thread, I am curious ... Do you have some sort of affiliation with JO Sports?

[TriplexXxSports]

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Not true. There are boatloads of game used NFL jerseys that hit the market that aren't even worth $100. The players just don't pull decent prices. They just don't.
And you can't use the comparison that any gamer should be worth a couple hundred bucks because retail authentics cost even more. It's apples to oranges, two different products, two different target buyers.
Let me preface this by saying I've had dealings with and made satisfactory purchases from JO Sports. While I've never gotten what I would consider to be "a bargain" from them I will say that they were at least willing to negotiate with me in order to make an item's price more realistic.
I collect Bears gamers and Buccaneers gamers. There are tons of Bucs gamers that become available every year from players past and present that barely break the $200 mark. That's accepted among those of us who are knowledgeable regarding Bucs equipment. You pay more than a couple bills for a Bucs jersey and you'd better really like it because you may not get your money back out of it. At the same time, we see Bears jerseys belonging to B-listers and guys who are no longer with the team for sale for twice what a similar Bucs jersey would sell for. Other than the fact that it's from a more desirable team, a typical example of these Bears jerseys are still realistically worth around $200-250....tops. The resale market proves it every time.
I've bought and sold more examples of these than I could possibly count.
Unless it's a star player, these lesser players' jerseys just don't maintain their value.......at all. If you're able to control the market to the point where you can get $400-500 for one-year players and traded/cut players then you, sir, have hit the lottery. Regardless of all the team paperwork, COA's, wearmarks, photomatching and whatever bells and whistles you can attach to a jersey, in the real world some of these are not now nor will they ever be worth more than $200. Period.
If you're able to command more than that amount for them, God bless you, you're clearly an example of the American dream at it's finest.
There will be cheerleaders and others who will attempt to present an argument to the contrary, but those of us who are truly knowledgeable in the buying and re-selling of these items with the intention of not losing money know that there is none.
While I commend JO Sports for organizing a successful and badly-needed venue in which to market an item which has not previously been marketed on such a scale, I would like to see some issues in regards to the pricing of these less desirable jerseys. We all watch them sit in their inventory for months for a reason. Price them to move and they'll move, I promise you that, and I certainly hope that with their new plan to work with the members of this forum they will be working towards that end.

Very well said. You and I have discussed this on numerous occasions and some of what you said will fall on deaf ears, but in all you are exactly right.

On a side note, back to the issue of JO's prices, I have to admit that (in my Bears market at least) the prices are just whacked. Not so much for the value they feel that the individual jerseys are worth, but in the sense that their price scheme seems tilted.

This may not be the same for other teams inventory, but mind you, I am only speaking in terms of their Bears items.

What I cannot grasp is the pricing between the same players jerseys. They have a Matt Forte jersey from the 2009 season listed at $3500. Right next to it they have another Matt Forte, (2008) listed for $500 MORE. Other examples include a Briggs listed at $1125, and one at $1500 - a $375 difference. Alex Brown for $1100, one at $750, etc.

To me that makes absolutely no sense. Why is the same players jersey more, or less. Why not price them all the same? This tells me that there is alot of room for mark-up and when 1 jersey is priced $350+ more than a jersey of the same player, that points me into believing it is greed.

Now, before I appear to be knocking JO, let me say that I have worked with Jarrod personally on many occasions. I own 3 pieces from JO. Like everyone pointed out their customer service, response time, etc. is above all the best I have come across. Perfect example - on Monday (12/29/2008) I e-mailed JO and said that I wanted Urlacher's uniform from that Sunday's game. Jarrod made that all possible. Couple of month's later, the full uniform arrived at my door step. I do not know of any other place out there that would do that, or even CAN do that, for that matter. I will always commend these guys for what they do in this hobby.

It's just the prices...! As someone said earlier (Skins maybe), they seem to cater to the higher end collectors. I have made that same point in another thread about JO. All I would ever ask of them is to help out the little folk a bit more. We have all seen that JO has recently been tapping into the auction market (GUU, GFC, eBay, etc.) so they have to see that their realized prices are considerably less than their original asking price. Listening to the customer, and watching what your items sell for in the open market gives you a perfect idea of what the items are actually worth.