Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

[3arod13]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

I emailed the seller stating I'm interested to see what he does with his auction after the solid proof Bobby has provided. This was his response (assumed I was Bobby):

"Bobby you must hate that we get game used bats from players and then make lots of money reselling them. Are you still slaving taking luggage to the rooms and making tips, I can see how that would make you like this. We have sold over 50 bats and only one return, add it up $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Thanks for helping me on the bat, I just made my site allott better for buyers."

Guess he answered my question.

Regards, Tony

[gorilla777]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

I emailed the seller stating I'm interested to see what he does with his auction after the solid proof Bobby has provided. This was his response (assumed I was Bobby):

"Bobby you must hate that we get game used bats from players and then make lots of money reselling them. Are you still slaving taking luggage to the rooms and making tips, I can see how that would make you like this. We have sold over 50 bats and only one return, add it up $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Thanks for helping me on the bat, I just made my site allott better for buyers."

Guess he answered my question.

Regards, Tony

That seller is a real class act

[gameused]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

That's pretty hillarious, you can tell that he's not the brightest guy on the planet and for some reason he thinks I'm a bellman

Bobby

[lovegameused]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

People I have boughten 5-6 bats from this seller with no problems. Everybody can make a mistake, but till you have proof how can you say all these negative things about this seller. All my Vladimir bats have passed game used authentication (Lou Lampson, Psa and Jsa). I would not blame the seller I would blame the buyer for not doing there homework.

[lovegameused]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

If you read the description the seller is saying "that the bat was used in the game where Vlad hit his 1st home run. I have boughten a couple HR bats from this seller and both have passed authentication and I have done relentless research before I bought both bats. Don't blame the seller blame the buyer. I don't want this guy to go anywhere because I love Vladimir and this seller sells great bats.
"GO VLADIMIR WE LOVE YOU"

[LWMM]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

If you read the description the seller is saying "that the bat was used in the game where Vlad hit his 1st home run. I have boughten a couple HR bats from this seller and both have passed authentication and I have done relentless research before I bought both bats. Don't blame the seller blame the buyer. I don't want this guy to go anywhere because I love Vladimir and this seller sells great bats.
"GO VLADIMIR WE LOVE YOU"

The description has been changed a dozen (literally!) times since the 12th, and I think that was added in later. If he has admitted that the bat was not used for the homerun, why is the bat inscribed otherwise?

[jobathenut]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

Hey don't get me wrong "game used" i am with you.I am just asking if you ever think of that kind of thing when you post things like this on here.I remember awhile ago on here.There was a poster tha said a person from a auction house had tracked him down and went to the guys house because of things he said on here.And also have read peole getting lawsuits for slander for things they have said on here.I totally agree with all you said.I am just saying sometimes people can things said on here very personal.Keep up the great work,as i have great respect for you as i don't think i could do it.

Joba,

Just trying to chip in and clean up this hobby we all enjoy. That's what this forum is all about, helping out fellow collectors and sharing information. I enjoy exposing the crooked individuals that take advantage of unsuspected buyers, eventually it will all catch up with them and their business will suffer.

Honesty is the best policy in this business and these eBay sellers, dealers and auction houses that offer game used items should do their homework first and be 100% sure the items they sell are exactly what they advertise.

Thanks,
Bobby

[5kRunner]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

If you read the description the seller is saying "that the bat was used in the game where Vlad hit his 1st home run. I have boughten a couple HR bats from this seller and both have passed authentication and I have done relentless research before I bought both bats. Don't blame the seller blame the buyer. I don't want this guy to go anywhere because I love Vladimir and this seller sells great bats.
"GO VLADIMIR WE LOVE YOU"

Please leave. If this is the attitude you have, I for one don't want you here. The seller obviously doctors bats. This isn't the first bat from this seller Bobby has brought to the forums attention. For you to blame the buyer is simply redickulous.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

Hey don't get me wrong "game used" i am with you.I am just asking if you ever think of that kind of thing when you post things like this on here.I remember awhile ago on here.There was a poster tha said a person from a auction house had tracked him down and went to the guys house because of things he said on here.And also have read peole getting lawsuits for slander for things they have said on here.I totally agree with all you said.I am just saying sometimes people can things said on here very personal.Keep up the great work,as i have great respect for you as i don't think i could do it.

Truth is an absolute defense to the two forms of defamation: slander or libel. in other words if you speak the truth you cannot defame anyone.
In this case the photos bobby posted clearly show the bat was not used for the homerun so he is speaking the truth and a lawsuit would be dismissed. Opinions also cannot constitute defamation. so opining that something is fake is not defamation as well. as for the house story i was not a member then but i saw an old thread with steve mears talking about that and it turned out to be a misunderstanding and not the auction house who went to his house.

[lovegameused]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

I punched up the major league hologram on the bat, Vladimir Guerrero did hit a homerun the same day this bat was stickered by MLB. Do you think it could of been inscribed accidently????? All i can tell you is I have never had one problem with this seller, and it looks like you guys are looking for anything to slander this seller. What about all the bats he has sold throughout the years that where authentic. Are you guys being a little hard on this seller, the bat was used the same day he hit his 1st homerun.
I have read the description and the seller has corrected the description. The bat was used the same day he his his home run. I would totally understand if Vlad did not hit a homerun that game, then you could say he was misleading buyers. There are rip off's intentionally trying to rip people off on e-bay you guys should be looking for them.

GO VLADIMIR WE LOVE YOU

[lovegameused]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

Don't you think you are being a little hard on this seller. This guy is good friends with Vladimir Guerrero and it sounds like you don't even want to help the seller, it sounds like you want to excute him. Most sellers on E-bay don't even know the player they are trying to sell. Help the seller so we can keep buying Vladimir Guerrero game used bats.
GO BIG VLADDY!!!!!!!!

[tbone90]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

Just my two cents but I purchased a bat from this individual previously. My advice - RUN! After some time I was finally able to be refunded through the Paypal dispute resolution process.

Sure he changed the description...AFTER he found out knowledgeable collectors were on to how he was trying to deceive and rip someone off and called him on it. So changing the description makes what he was trying to get away with ok? I don't think so...

Great job and thanks for passing this along for everyone Bobby!

[LWMM]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

Don't you think you are being a little hard on this seller. This guy is good friends with Vladimir Guerrero and it sounds like you don't even want to help the seller, it sounds like you want to excute him. Most sellers on E-bay don't even know the player they are trying to sell. Help the seller so we can keep buying Vladimir Guerrero game used bats.
GO BIG VLADDY!!!!!!!!

Two other threads worth reading:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=15955

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=16347

But I can't help being reminded of this article (the part about manipulation on page 2) :

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/world/asia/08censor.html?pagewanted=2

[pujols2001fan]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

I've been watching this site for quite a few months now and I can't keep my mouth shut anymore. All I see is a bunch of people that are out to ruin sellers. Just because you guys are SENIOR MEMBERS does not mean you guys are JUDGE AND JURY. It seems to me there is a little bit of jealousy going on. There's a bunch of people on this site that don't have anything else better to do but ruin reputations. I will keep buying bats from q3clippers they sell the best Vladimir Guerrero bats, it may not be the actual hr bat but it is still a vlad game used bat. Answer these question's 1. Did Vladimir Guerrero use the bat the day he hit his first home run?
2. Did MLB authenticate the bat?
3. Is it a game used bat from Vlad?
Stop harrassing this member before he stops selling bats.

[platinum1]

Re: Vladimir Guererro 1st HR bat of 2010 "I dont think so!"

Don't you think you are being a little hard on this seller. This guy is good friends with Vladimir Guerrero and it sounds like you don't even want to help the seller, it sounds like you want to excute him. Most sellers on E-bay don't even know the player they are trying to sell. Help the seller so we can keep buying Vladimir Guerrero game used bats.
GO BIG VLADDY!!!!!!!!

It sounds like your the seller of these bats.
Can someone check the name of lovegameused.
A big Vlad collector that just happend to find this site when an item came to question