Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

[gorilla777]

Re: California Sports Inv. -- Items pass PSA/DNA?

An Albert Pujols bat I bought from them.

-Tony

They have good items, I don't think you generally will have any problems. If you need Pujols bat commentary, then you should talk to Jeff at Birdbats.

Ben

[spartanservitto]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

I trust Ron, I dont think the markings are similar to the black bats with the white.

My question is this order.

2003 (Nov)
24
LS
Any
Natural
PROMO
34
0

- the length of my bat is 34 inches. Im not sure on the weight, because I dont have the ability to weigh the item. What were these promo bats sent by louisville? The reason being is that the bat has a natural finish. Which these bats do. Were the promo bats concept bats for albert to try? It would shed some light on the fact that the bat is maple yet has the powerized logo still. There also are no specific weights listed with these bats.

- My question is this... Can you even by a a model bat that wouldnt have the TPX or other logo on the bat like this one? To me it seems like concept bat.

-Tony

[STLHAMMER32]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

I trust Ron, I dont think the markings are similar to the black bats with the white.

My question is this order.

2003 (Nov)
24
LS
Any
Natural
PROMO
34
0

- the length of my bat is 34 inches. Im not sure on the weight, because I dont have the ability to weigh the item. What were these promo bats sent by louisville? The reason being is that the bat has a natural finish. Which these bats do. Were the promo bats concept bats for albert to try? It would shed some light on the fact that the bat is maple yet has the powerized logo still. There also are no specific weights listed with these bats.

- My question is this... Can you even by a a model bat that wouldnt have the TPX or other logo on the bat like this one? To me it seems like concept bat.

-Tony

Tony does your bat have any lace indentations?

[spartanservitto]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

I dont think so, its a pretty solid bat?

-Tony

[Rboitano]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

Every Maple bat I have ever had that was used, had seam marks. All of those ink transfers look just like the other CSI bats that I have seen. I will not purchase a bat that came from them. With all of those ink transfers their should be some seam marks.

[STLHAMMER32]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

I dont think so, its a pretty solid bat?

-Tony

Ive noticed if you hold the bat up near a light on most game used bats you can see lace indentions that are not always easily seen. The laces from fastballs coming in at 90mph+ in addition to bat speeds around the same will cause the laces from the baseball to leave indentations.

Every game used bat that I have ever owned has had the lace indentations and it is one of the first things I look for. Hope this helps!

[STLHAMMER32]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

A great example of the lace indentations can be seen on the photo in the light of the McGwire HR bat on this thread, the first post.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=35409

[spartanservitto]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

I will tell you all, one week on this site and I want to be out of the hobby. Very sad. I was so proud of the bat, and now I am miserable, I saved up so much money to purchase that bat. Heart is absolutely broken, not so much that I was ripped off, but that I will never be able to own an Albert Pujols game used bat.

I wish athletes could read this. 25 year old young man, who not only has been ripped off, but more than likely albert participated in it (the auto is legit; no one can question that).

-Tony Servitto

[5kRunner]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

I'm really not sure what to make of this thread. You trust the guy who sold you the bat, and then go on to say Albert participated in ripping you off.

Its obviously a promo bat that more than likely was not used by Pujols. If you bought the bat within the last week, I'd try to get my money back.

[spartanservitto]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

Albert signed it, and I think he signed it after. The smudge indicates he signed over a ball mark. The seller said I can return it. Looks like that is what I will do.

-Tony

[Rob L]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

I trust Ron, I dont think the markings are similar to the black bats with the white.

huh? Your right, they are blue instead. White doesn't show up on Maple well. Blue transfers with no seam marks? It is the same. It sucks, I know I had a black bat from CSI that had the white marks. Just an expensive lesson for me.

[spartanservitto]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

Yea I screwed up. Way to be nonchalant about it. Its hard enough losing about a year worth of money I saved...

-Tony

[justinlm24]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

don't feel bad, I've bought 2 pujols bats myself in the past, and both turned out to be fakes....just a lesson you learn in this hobby. But rather than want to get out of the hobby, use this board for resources and do your homework before you make your next purchase. There are tons of people here who can help you or offer advice on any item you want to purchase prior to doing so. I know I've been able to avoid bad deals with the help of everyone here....good luck with the bat...take care bro

[spartanservitto]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

Yea, it's tough. I was just a kid when I went after the bats, and I thought CSI was a pretty safe bet on game used items based on the inventory and contacts. Apparently not.

Has anyone initiated a law suit against this company? Or anyone else in that matter?

-Tony

[rj_lucas]

Re: Albert Pujols Louisville order question (2002-2003)

Don't be too discouraged Tony. You can bet that many, if not most, collectors have had an experience similar to yours at some point. You'll be smarter for the experience, since forewarned is forearmed.

Also, you can be sure that Albert was not involved in anything fishy. The guy is as upstanding as they come.

It's not unusual to see Sharpie get smudged on a finished bat. The ink doesn't set up as quickly because of the finish. That's a long inscription, and Albert's hand would have moved over the first few letters as he wrote, smudging them.

I'm glad to hear the dealer has agreed to return your money and wish every dealer offered a similar return privilege. Please post an update when you've received the refund, as I'm sure many of us will continue to follow the thread until we know the situation has been resolved.

Rick
rickjlucas@gmail.com