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Reid I think you got confused or a miscommunication in the emails.
Jason,
Are you kidding? I have the emails right here - they are crystal clear. You and I had a full email discussion about this. Let me know if you want me to post the emails. I would LOVE to know how I am confused about this. Let me know if you want me to post the emails or if this response sufficiently helps to refresh your memory.
Reid
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Reid I emailed you this morning I see you have not read hat one yet.
Jason,
I did indeed see your email just now. I won't say another word on the subject, but it is utterly preposterous that you stated that I "got confused" about this matter. Rest assured, this is my last post on the topic.
Reid
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I see everyone feels this should be made a PUBLIC ISSUE ESPECIALLY SINCE HOWARD IS ASKING REID FOR THE FACTS I guess everyone feels to make my business there business espcially REID annoucing my business.
So here it is and case ended!!!
Someone offered me a AROD Rangers Jersey, I THOUGHT IT WAS STEINER AUTHENTICATED. I passed on it anyway bcuz I really wasnt interested in it. 2 weeks later REID posted he was interested in an AROD Jersey, I mentioned to him the one that was offered to me. I emailed the person about the Jersey but by that time it was already sold. I was also corrected that it was NOT STEINER AUTHENTICATED. So that was my mistake!!! So I explained to REID WHAT HAD HAPPEND AND THAT THE JERSEY WAS SOLD AND I MADE A MISTAKE BY SAYING IT WAS STEINER AUTHENTICATED A LONG TIME AGO.
Now he comes back on here still wanting to see the Jersey with Steiner authetication. I dont understand why? I dont have one does anyone else here have one??????????
I explained to him a long time ago it was a mistake, so why would you still be looking for it???????????
I guess thats what you get for trying to help someone out, they put your business in public.
From this point forward I will not try to help this individual!!!
I see everyone feels this should be made a PUBLIC ISSUE ESPECIALLY SINCE HOWARD IS ASKING REID FOR THE FACTS I guess everyone feels to make my business there business espcially REID annoucing my business.
So here it is and case ended!!!
Someone offered me a AROD Rangers Jersey, I THOUGHT IT WAS STEINER AUTHENTICATED. I passed on it anyway bcuz I really wasnt interested in it. 2 weeks later REID posted he was interested in an AROD Jersey, I mentioned to him the one that was offered to me. I emailed the person about the Jersey but by that time it was already sold. I was also corrected that it was NOT STEINER AUTHENTICATED. So that was my mistake!!! So I explained to REID WHAT HAD HAPPEND AND THAT THE JERSEY WAS SOLD AND I MADE A MISTAKE BY SAYING IT WAS STEINER AUTHENTICATED A LONG TIME AGO.
Now he comes back on here still wanting to see the Jersey with Steiner authetication. I dont understand why? I dont have one does anyone else here have one??????????
I explained to him a long time ago it was a mistake, so why would you still be looking for it???????????
I guess thats what you get for trying to help someone out, they put your business in public.
From this point forward I will not try to help this individual!!!
Jason,
Do you ever wonder why you get in to so many arguments with forum members? Do you ever stop to think about your posts, before you submit them? Are you taken aback and befuddled when you are sanctioned and temporarily suspended from the forum?
While I must say that I appreciate your ego, the issue as to whether Steiner did a third-party authentication of an Arod Rangers jersey is a hobby issue, not your private business. This jersey was being offered to me through you, and I am sure you would agree that I am free to post questions and comments that are relevant to both the hobby and my personal collecting interests here on the forum, particularly when the issue in question is related to whether I spend $2500 on an item (not a small chunk of change by any means). Furthermore, I don't understand why you are so afraid of this issue being discussed on the forum. I would think that you would want to educate your friends and fellow collectors on the forum, but perhaps I am wrong about this.
I was willing to let the issue drop, but since you are attempting to drag my name through the mud, you have forced me to post again on this topic.
After the issue of Steiner doing third-party authentications became a thread topic on this forum (in which I was told that Steiner never does such a thing by other forum members), I emailed you to clarify the issue, as you had told me otherwise.
I find it absolutely incredible that now you say that you made a mistake and that Steiner did not do a third-party authentication on the jersey. I find it even more incredible that you have tried to make me look like I am the one who is confused and is misrepresenting things. Solely for the purpose of setting the record straight, here is what you wrote to me:
>From: jason edelman <admin@gameuseddirect.com>
>To: Reid Fontaine <rgf2@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Regarding the AROD Game Used Jersey
>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:13:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hello Reid,
>
>The info that I gave you about Steiner doing 3rd party
>Authenticating WAS true. I thought they still did for
>special situations. After that post I was contacted
>directly by Steiner (bcuz they know me directly) and
>explained that they used to, but no longer do 3rd
>party authenticating bcuz of too many issues in the
>industry with fraud. So thats why I posted afterwards
>my new statement. By accident I gave you the wrong
>information bcuz that is what I beleived too untill I
>was notified that they used too but no longer.
>
>That is another reason why I am trying to find out
>more detail on the ARod Jersey!!!
>
>I hope this helps and apologies for the
>misinformation!!!
>
>--- Reid Fontaine <rgf2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jason,
> >
> > I just saw gameusedforum and am pretty confused. Is
> > the AROD jersey
> > authenticated by Steiner? Is it available? Does it
> > have the MeiGray letter
> > and Rangers' serial number tag?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Reid
> >
> > >From: jason edelman <admin@gameuseddirect.com>
> > >To: Reid Fontaine <rgf2@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Regarding the AROD Game Used Jersey
> > >Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Hello Reid,
> > >
> > > I have a message out to the person inquiring
> > about if it has the MeiGray
> > >tagging? I will most likely here back tomorrow, as
> > soon as I do I will
> > >contact you and let you know what the status is.
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >Reid Fontaine <rgf2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Jason,
> > >
> > >That is fascinating! Thanks for this info. Can you
> > tell me the serial
> > >number
> > >on the tag? All AROD game worn Rangers jerseys had
> > serial number tags. I'd
> > >need to know the serial number before moving
> > forward. I do have interest in
> > >this jersey! Thanks,
> > >Reid
> > >
> > > >From: jason edelman
> > > >To: Reid Fontaine
> > > >Subject: RE: Regarding the AROD Game Used Jersey
> > > >Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:42:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Hello Reid,
> > > >
> > > > Actually this is a Very Unique situation this is
> > a Rangers ARod Jersey,
> > > >with a Steiner LOA. The reason being is the
> > jersey was aquired by Steiner
> > > >from a very well respected collector and had
> > great providence and Steiner
> > > >Issued an LOA. for it.
> > > >
> > > > Steiner does do this from time to time but it is
> > extremely rare. They do
> > > >third party authenticating but only if they know
> > exactly where it came
> > > >from.
> > > >
> > > > Along with it, it may have also the MeiGray
> > Paperwork but that I am not
> > > >sure of.
> > > >
> > > >Reid Fontaine wrote:
> > > > jason,
> > > >
> > > >is it a Yankees shirt? the arod yankees jerseys
> > come from steiner. the
> > >arod
> > > >rangers jerseys come from meigray. thanks. if it
> > is an arod yankees game
> > > >worn jersey with steiner certification, then i'm
> > interested. thanks,
> > > >reid
> > > >
> > > > >From: jason edelman
> > > > >To: Reid Fontaine
> > > > >Subject: RE: Regarding the AROD Game Used
> > Jersey
> > > > >Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:01:02 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >Hello Reid,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure if it comes with the Meigray
> > Paperwork, but it does come
> > > > >with a Steiner LOA.
> > > > > I do believe asking price is $2500.
> > > > > Let me know if your interested and I will ask
> > him?
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > > President
> > > > > www.GameUsedDirect.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Reid Fontaine wrote:
> > > > > jason,
> > > > >thanks. is it a meigray arod jersey? what is
> > the asking price? thanks.
> > > > >reid
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: jason edelman
> > > > > >To: rgf2@hotmail.com
> > > > > >Subject: Regarding the AROD Game Used Jersey
> > > > > >Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Regarding you wanting an ARod Jersey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >From time to time they pop on Ebay or Sports
> > auctions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I do know of someone now selling a Game Used
> > Rangers
> > > > > >ARod Jersey, What are you considerng to spend
> > and I
> > > > > >will let him know.
Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.
Jason, I assume Reid didn't get the message that you made an error, which is why we all were asking to see the jersey and authentication. If he had a message of that nature he would have never kept this thread going.
REID first of all me running your name through the mud your the one who threw my name out there first!!!!!!!!!!!
Second of all it is your right to discuss questions and issues with members here on the forum, but in a professional matter which you lack.
Especially if the Seller or Buyer is a member here you can discuss with out using names!!! Obviously that slid right past you.
As far arguinbg with members the only person I truly argued with was TRSENT. Which makes your point - VOID!!!
NOW AS FAR AS YOU FEELING YOU HAD TO POST AND COPY OUR EMAILS - AS EVERYONE CAN SEE I POINTED OUT I MADE A MISTAKE A LONG TIME AGO AND EXPLAINED THAT TOO YOU,
WHICH YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT EVEN FURTHER THAT YOU DID GET THE MESSAGE AND YOUR STILL GOING ON ABOUT A JERSEY THAT DOESNT EXIST.
SO NOW EVERYONE CAN SEE FOR WHAT ITS WORTH, THAT SOMEWHERE YOU GOT CONFUSED!!!
REID first of all me running your name through the mud your the one who threw my name out there first!!!!!!!!!!!
Second of all it is your right to discuss questions and issues with members here on the forum, but in a professional matter which you lack.
Especially if the Seller or Buyer is a member here you can discuss with out using names!!! Obviously that slid right past you.
As far arguinbg with members the only person I truly argued with was TRSENT. Which makes your point - VOID!!!
NOW AS FAR AS YOU FEELING YOU HAD TO POST AND COPY OUR EMAILS - AS EVERYONE CAN SEE I POINTED OUT I MADE A MISTAKE A LONG TIME AGO AND EXPLAINED THAT TOO YOU,
WHICH YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT EVEN FURTHER THAT YOU DID GET THE MESSAGE AND YOUR STILL GOING ON ABOUT A JERSEY THAT DOESNT EXIST.
SO NOW EVERYONE CAN SEE FOR WHAT ITS WORTH, THAT SOMEWHERE YOU GOT CONFUSED!!!
Jason,
Simply amazing. It's hard to argue with your reasoning.
I think this thread has long outlived its value.
Reid
Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.
Value? I think you and Jason turned this into a 3rd grade sandbox fight, I think anybody looking for value on this thread stopped reading around 9am this morning. This is the kind of thing that makes sane people question their involvement on this forum, you two have argued like little kids and through it all not a single piece of relevant information has been provided.
Howard years ago Steiner did but they dont do it anymore. I thought they still did if it came from a trusted collection but i was corrected they do not do it at all.
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