Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

[brianborsch]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Well for me it is without question. I see the rack mark with the same curvature and I see the ball mark which was made from the impact in the picture. I think it is pretty clear. But for those of you who needs like 20 different pieces of evidence, and can't see that the mark is indeed in the exact spot where the ball is hitting we practically need Loney himself to say it is what it is. And even then you may not believe him.

Like I said I will go to mlbtv and try to get some screen captures. Wish me luck!

Brian B

[brianborsch]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Suave,

You said it yourself:

"A PHOTO MATCH IS WHEN YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE EXACT GAME USED ITEM WITH INDICATING MARKINGS, SCUFFS, TEARS, BALL MARKS, RACK MARKS"

The rack mark is there and the ball mark from him hitting the ball in the pic. AND obviously the pics are NOT clear if people are saying the ball hit closer to the brand mark then on the actual bat. Its the same distance if you look at the bat turned showing the ENTIRE ball mark.

Cheers.

[Yankwood]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Gene Rayburn wouldn't even call that a match.

[suave1477]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Brian you said we need 20 peices of evidence, NO we just need 1. Just because you feel that the pic is the same one showing that be used doesn't mean it is unless you can cleary see it. WHICH YOU CANT!!!

So far every member here that has spoken out has said its not a photomatch but yet you insist it is. If your comforable with it then our opinions dont matter.

So it is up to you to take our advice and realize what it realize is or look at it the way you want.


Here is a quick example since yours is so clear to you its a photomatch.
What wouls stop me from being able to make up a bogus bat and say thats the photomatch to a picture of my bat. I can get a bat take a few whacks with a ball get it close enough to make a ball mark with your picture and then make a similar rack mark. With your picture I would have a photomatch too ACCORDING TO YOU!!

[bat_master]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Suave/Jason:

In my opinion the biggest reason you get in so many fights on this forum is your inability to just let things go. If he believes it is a photo match then there really is no amount of explanation that will change his mind.

I just wish that you would stop making posts about topics that don't need further discussion. Only my opinion of course.

Just my two cents,

Tim Byington

[suave1477]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

batmasters actually I was done, just trying to educate someone and help them realize what they.

As I also stated in my last post if he is comfortable with what he has then our opinions really dont matter.

As far as arguments there is only one person on here I have truley argued with. So that point is VOID!!


Hey like you said your just sticking your 2 cents in!!!

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Gene Rayburn wouldn't even call that a match.

Dumb Deloris is so dumb....
How dumb is she?
She's so dumb that she tried to light her cigarette with a photo "match"...

[Yankwood]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Dumb Deloris is so dumb....
How dumb is she?
She's so dumb that she tried to light her cigarette with a photo "match"...

Very Good! By the way, who is Jim Loney anyway? Is he related to Bill Loney?

[brianborsch]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

So maybe the bat isn't "photomatched" by the definition in the GU collecting industry, but there seems to be a lot of duplicity in this conversation.

Suave states that someone could get an identical bat put identical rack marks and hit a ball to put ball marks in identical places. If that's the case then even a truly "photomatched" item can be faked. So there is never a chance for a truly garaunteed photo matched item.

My reasoning (and I am sure a lot of you can agree with this) is it is a certain brand of bat in a certain color with the player's name and team branded into it. (According to BWP they will only do this if the player himself or his rep orders the bats and Loney seems to only use BWP nowadays). Second, there is a pic with what looks like the exact same rack marks showing a ball hitting in a certain spot on the bat and on my bat there is a ball mark that was clearly a solid connection. I think the chances of someone faking that is pretty slim if impossble. Professional players would have a hard time having a ball hit an exact spot on a bat, what to speak of some amatuer schmuck rip-off artist.

Yeah, it probably isn't 100% certain based on evidence that it is indeed the bat in the pic, but nothing ever is. Just because there is "reasonable doubt" doesn't mean the bat wasn't used by Loney in that pic. Hell, there was a reasonable doubt in the OJ case and he got off even though he did it!

What to speak of the many people who go to jail and get out of jail unjustly.

Anyways, just my 2 cents on the fabled "industry" we are all a fan of.

[hblakewolf]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

I just took a look at the photos in question and have no idea how anyone can claim this is the bat in question.

All the back and forth on this issue-enough! If a jersey has pinstripes, it can be photo matched by locating the #'s/NOB, Logos, etc near the pinstripes. Likewise, a marking, stain, etc. can also allow an item to be photomatched.

What am I missing here on this bat in question? Sure, there is a chance this MAY be the bat, however, I see no way ANYONE could claim a photo match based on the phtos posted here.

The end.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[sportscentury]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

I just took a look at the photos in question and have no idea how anyone can claim this is the bat in question.

All the back and forth on this issue-enough! If a jersey has pinstripes, it can be photo matched by locating the #'s/NOB, Logos, etc near the pinstripes. Likewise, a marking, stain, etc. can also allow an item to be photomatched.

What am I missing here on this bat in question? Sure, there is a chance this MAY be the bat, however, I see no way ANYONE could claim a photo match based on the phtos posted here.

The end.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

On that note, I am locking this thread.

(Just kidding you, Eric).

[Swoboda4]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Not a clear cut match. Comfort level up?-definitely. I see the line mark on the bat and the similar one(at the same spot)on the photo)if it was my bat I would feel good. I was expecting better when I opened the thread, Then again how many bats does Loney have with a line mark radiating towards the barrel from the top portion of the llabel? By the way,Tim(batmaster)I mailed payment for the Relaford bat today.

[brianborsch]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Praise the Lord! EXACTLY what I was thinking. I made the mistake of mis-titling the message as I wasn't clear on the proper definition of photo-matching.

But if you consider all the details it adds up to being pretty sure about it. Thank you.

[Swoboda4]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

If you have AOL drag the photo to the top space bar near favorites and release right click. On AOL photomanager increase photo to 200% and Decrease photo contrast. Still not great but you can SLIGHTLY make out the elongated "S" curve(low near the label,arching up towards the barrel). Now I'm going to stop at this point before everybody starts thinking I can also see canals on Mars. (WARNING:For Comfort Level Purposes Only)

[suave1477]

Re: Talk about a photo match for James Loney bat...

Swoboda I could have used you years ago for my science projects when I was studying uranus lmaooooooooooooooo

Im sorry man I couldnt resists just jokes no harm intended