Differences of a Salesman's Sample Jersey

[Swoboda4]

Re: What separates "salesman's samples"from G/U?

Thanks for Mears site info. Not to beat a dead horse, but the jersey I have in mind, to eliminate from being a salesman's sample is the recent Brett jersey I've recently on a previous thread. To the point for this topic though,this label appears to be not altered and also bearing the correct label for that period.
The only confirmation I need(and a telltale factor on salesman's sample I also believe) is the size for the player that year. A salesman's sample wouldn't neccessarily be accurate as to size ) I see 44 for Brett elsewhere is that what other Brett collectors see also?

[justinwc80]

Re: What separates "salesman's samples"from G/U?

From what I can tell there are salesman samples jerseys and rings. From what I've seen at auction the tagging should be different on a salesman sample although there have been instances where people have doctored these. Alot probably depends on what era you are looking at. Dave Grob is the expert on everything jersey wise so check out mearsonline.com and see if any of those articles help you out.

[Swoboda4]

What separates "salesman's samples"from G/U?

I understand that salesman samples are mostly made exhibiting a star players' name and from companies different from what the team is actually using(hense the salesman).
So, a jersey displaying the correct label(for the team)that year is automatically NOT a saleman's sample?

[sportscentury]

Re: Differences of a Salesman's Sample Jersey

Kingjammy24 back in town.

This is very nice to see.

[kingjammy24]

Re: Differences of a Salesman's Sample Jersey

here's a nice example of a modern salesman's sample:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230013988846

rudy.

[Swoboda4]

Re: Differences of a Salesman's Sample Jersey

Kingjammy24 back in town. Thanks. Hey Rudy,look at current items for bid and weigh in on the Steiner/heilman,"Does this label look O.K." thread.
Robert

[kingjammy24]

Re: Differences of a Salesman's Sample Jersey

my first response is that a salesman's sample shouldn't show any use whereas a game used jersey should. i suspect you're probably looking for an answer which provides for the possibility that someone may have manufactured use on a salesman's sample.

i think salesman's samples stem from 2 legit purposes; one is that they're made as prototypes for a manufacturer trying to win a contract from a team. hence the manufacturer creates a "sample jersey" to show prospective clients (teams) their work. in this case, if the manufacturer fails to win a contract with the team, then it'd be fairly easy to spot the salesman's sample - it'd be the wrong manufacturer for the year/time period. depending on how realistic the manufacturer wanted to make the prototype, you may also see tagging and fonts that never actually ended up being used.

the second purpose presents a trickier situation. i believe there've been instances where a manufacturer would create jerseys to present them as business gifts to VIPs, big patrons, etc. in this case, i'd look at the size and any player-unique customizations such as extra length, custom sleeves, etc. a salesman's sample would likely be missing these latter elements. other than that, i'd really try to ascertain whether the game use looks fabricated or legit.

rudy.

[Swoboda4]

If I had a salesman's sample of a baseball player's jersey would I be able to tell the difference from a game used jersey of the same player? I don't have this problem but what should I look out for?