Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

[schubert1970]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

I might be one of the few who saw the original post that started this thread.

Using the rational to delete it because it was started by a banned member is strange. I think everyone here realizes it was started by the same banned member who added so much to the Pete Rose corked bat thread. Those comments have been left, and the member had been banned for some time when he posted those comments? Isn’t there just as much, if not more educational value in this post? I don’t understand why it was removed in the first place. I’m glad it has been brought back.

Valuable info shared to other collectors should take precedent regardless of who is posting it. The rules are always bent here, so it’s good to see them bent in the best interest of the collecting community.

As mentioned earlier, I too am troubled about where jerseys like this come from. I think it would be really helpful to hear from Rob Steinmetz on this jersey. He contacted a member in the “Wanted Items” to instigate the sale of this jersey. He provided a letter of authenticity with it, and sold it to a member here. Yes, he made good on a mistake. But it leaves so many unanswered questions. Being one of the original founders of this site, I think it would be appropriate to hear from him on where it came from.

Anyone else have a feeling on this?

[AWA85]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

Rob it would be great for the hobby and collectors if you could share or reflect where the jersey originated from? It would serve very beneficial to myself and others who are interested in Larkin and other similar game used items.

I agree with schubert, posting this thread again is extremely beneficial to the hobby. Not really sure why the original was taken down in the beginning of this sticky situation.

I have received countless emails from many members and appreciate the GUU community in all of their efforts and opinions.

[BostonSportsFan]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

Here are photos of a MEARS analysis of this jersey. I think it would be great for full and absolute disclosure to happen for the hobby sake. This obvisouly is not a $150.00 authentic as this item sold for well over $1000 and shipped from Illinois to Ohio.

I would just be curious how an esteemed authenticator from GAI and very reputable dealer held in the highest esteem and regard in this industry did not catch what would appear to be obvious signs and know that these particular road Larkins had been on the watch list like the 95 Ripkens circulating the hobby because of all the jersey blanks out there being turned into Ripken jersey's.

I think we would all greatly benefit if Mr. Rob Steinmetz a man of great stature and someone who is looked upon in the pantheons of greatness in the collecting world would take a few minutes to address this issue. I know Mr. Steinmetz is reported to be extremely busy however if he could address this situation especially to all those who have so strongly supported him in this hobby over the years, it would help to put closure to this matter. Mr. Steinmetz has come extremely well recommended by many many collectors and it would serve the collecting public well if he could put to rest any illicit rumors about the origin of this specific jersey and how it made its way through his fine tuned authentication skills.

[BostonSportsFan]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

Just an FYI:

If you are a MEARS member Dave Grob wrote an entire article on this jersey I believe in May or June of 2009. You can research it on the MEARS website and view the entire contents of that article. Very informative read.

[BostonSportsFan]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

Several more photos from that article for review

[BostonSportsFan]

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[platinum1]

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[AWA85]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

Great info Boston, thanks!

[Rob L]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

I'm totally idiotic here, but what is this trying to show here? I only saw the original post and didn't follow it closely enough to see what is going on but I can't make sense of this thread. Based on the original post, it would seem that this was supposed to be a photomatched jersey but it isn't. The MEARS info seems to show the same jersey being sold by three different sellers. I don't doubt that there are issues with the jersey, this thread is just not clear on what we are showing (in my lame brain anyways).

[allstarsplus]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

I'm totally idiotic here, but what is this trying to show here? I only saw the original post and didn't follow it closely enough to see what is going on but I can't make sense of this thread. Based on the original post, it would seem that this was supposed to be a photomatched jersey but it isn't. The MEARS info seems to show the same jersey being sold by three different sellers. I don't doubt that there are issues with the jersey, this thread is just not clear on what we are showing (in my lame brain anyways).

Rob L. - I will try to recap.

The 1st post shows that based on photos in the public domain, that their are issues with the fonts, and placement and sizing of the numerals and no style matches were found against photos. The jersey shows use so how did it get on there and where did the Cincy Reds letter come from?

The photos from MEARs posted by BostonSportsFan shows to me that the "use" was possibly put on the jersey after the Grey Flannel auction as you can see use on the back numerals in the Lelands photo.

A few people that are close to Reds game used expert Mark Fugate have stated that there were several of these game issued blank size 46 jerseys available at the Reds FanFest 15 years ago.

The buyer returned the jersey to the seller for a refund.

With the photos that BostonSportsFan posted, yes, the same jersey was in possession of Grey Flannel, Lelands and AuthenticGamers and AWA85 who was the buyer.

There is a very distinct crimp in the Russell jock tag that makes this particular jersey very identifiable.

My biggest question is, does that Grey Flannel jersey show no use on the back of the numbers which is what I see.

Lastly, will any of the sellers or consignors come forward?

[AWA85]

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Rob, if you have the time would like your input on the jersey. As a Reds collector and game used fan, I am curious who you bought it from and any input on the Cincinnati Reds letter?

[Rob L]

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Rob L. - I will try to recap.

The 1st post shows that based on photos in the public domain, that their are issues with the fonts, and placement and sizing of the numerals and no style matches were found against photos. The jersey shows use so how did it get on there and where did the Cincy Reds letter come from?

The photos from MEARs posted by BostonSportsFan shows to me that the "use" was possibly put on the jersey after the Grey Flannel auction as you can see use on the back numerals in the Lelands photo.

A few people that are close to Reds game used expert Mark Fugate have stated that there were several of these game issued blank size 46 jerseys available at the Reds FanFest 15 years ago.

The buyer returned the jersey to the seller for a refund.

With the photos that BostonSportsFan posted, yes, the same jersey was in possession of Grey Flannel, Lelands and AuthenticGamers and AWA85 who was the buyer.

There is a very distinct crimp in the Russell jock tag that makes this particular jersey very identifiable.

My biggest question is, does that Grey Flannel jersey show no use on the back of the numbers which is what I see.

Lastly, will any of the sellers or consignors come forward?

Got it. Thanks for clearing that up Andrew!!

[AWA85]

Re: Barry Larkin 1995 Road Jersey

When I first saw this auction, I thought I was having a flashback. Since this thread seems to have all things road 95 Larkin, I thought we could just add to it.

Looking at the property tag, this is NOT the jersey I once owned. http://catalog.greyflannelauctions.c...8MVP-Season%29