Authentication Issues - Help Needed

[flaco1801]

Re: Authentication Issues - Help Needed

why didnt vintage just put it in their auction? why did they have to make phone calls to push the sale? i think the bat should be returned to the auction house, and everyone will have learned a lession. when ya buy something buy it because you love it not because ya wanna make a profit. Jeff

[LHG39]

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why didnt vintage just put it in their auction? why did they have to make phone calls to push the sale? i think the bat should be returned to the auction house, and everyone will have learned a lession. when ya buy something buy it because you love it not because ya wanna make a profit. Jeff

You know, that is exactly what I was wondering while reading the initial post. Why sell it to someone on the condition that they consign it back? That is my first sign that something funny is going on.

[kingjammy24]

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perhaps the seller didn't want to auction/consign it and instead wanted to sell it outright, therefore vintage couldn't put it in their auction.

the seller may not have wanted to deal with the hassles of an auction, didn't feel comfortable with the risks of an auction, may have felt they'd make a greater profit by selling it outright.

rudy.

[trsent]

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perhaps the seller didn't want to auction/consign it and instead wanted to sell it outright, therefore vintage couldn't put it in their auction.

the seller may not have wanted to deal with the hassles of an auction, didn't feel comfortable with the risks of an auction, may have felt they'd make a greater profit by selling it outright.

rudy.

Rudy, the seller was Vintage Authentics who bought the bat from Dave Bushing.

[kingjammy24]

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joel,

are you positive? i never specifically caught that from mike's original post. it seemed as if steve brokered the sale. perhaps i'm wrong.

if steve was the seller then it seems as if he was trying to doubledip. profit from a direct sale and then, by stipulating it should be consigned back, profit again from the auction proceeds. essentially profiting from selling the same bat twice instead of just once.

if steve was indeed the seller then perhaps that's why he failed to inform mike and chris that it was the same bat that he offered them before?

steve used to post diligently whenever any related questions/issues arose. i'm unsure why he hasn't made a single post regarding this entire issue.

on a slightly different note, joel you're a betting man. care to wager that troy's "research" is never going to see the light of day?

rudy.

[trsent]

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joel,

are you positive? i never specifically caught that from mike's original post. it seemed as if steve brokered the sale. perhaps i'm wrong.

if steve was the seller then it seems as if he was trying to doubledip. profit from a direct sale and then, by stipulating it should be consigned back, profit again from the auction proceeds. essentially profiting from selling the same bat twice instead of just once.

if steve was indeed the seller then perhaps that's why he failed to inform mike and chris that it was the same bat that he offered them before?

steve used to post diligently whenever any related questions/issues arose. i'm unsure why he hasn't made a single post regarding this entire issue.

on a slightly different note, joel you're a betting man. care to wager that troy's "research" is never going to see the light of day?

rudy.

Rudy, I'm not wagering with you on anything but sports.

I talked to Troy twice today, he is a busy man.

If you don't take my offer to start our own Authenticating/Opinion service soon, I'm going to make an offer to buy MEARS.

[trsent]

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on a slightly different note, joel you're a betting man. care to wager that troy's "research" is never going to see the light of day?

rudy.

Ok, Rudy, I'm ready to wager.

How much?

[jake33]

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[sportscentury]

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Ok, Rudy, I'm ready to wager.

How much?

Joel,

This was a great teaser. Now that we've all been sitting on the edges of our seats for a couple of weeks, do you care to elaborate?

Reid

[JimCaravello]

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Does it not strike anyone oddly that MEARS has not followed up on the Speaker bat since August 24th???? That's over 60 days??? Will they ever respond, or are they just hoping this topic will be swept under the rug and never re-surface????

I personally would not be able to sleep at night until this issue was resolved if I were the authenticator................


Just MHO............Jim

[kingjammy24]

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hi jim,

actually it doesn't strike me as odd. isn't it what you thought would happen?

only 2 possibilities; either all that grandiose "research" never happened or it did happen and the results weren't what troy was hoping for.

while troy's silence was expected, i didn't quite expect mike rose to disappear. mike? any updates?

rudy.

[staindsox]

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I have also been following this thread closely for quite some time. Are there any updates or any new deveopments? Although I'm sure we have varying ideas on how this should be resolved, I think we all agree this is an extremely important issue. I would appreciate any updates from involved parties. Thanks again!!!

Chris

[b.heagy]

Re: Authentication Issues - Help Needed

Response to this topic has been posted on mears.

[jboosted92]

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Does it not strike anyone oddly that MEARS has not followed up on the Speaker bat since August 24th???? That's over 60 days??? Will they ever respond, or are they just hoping this topic will be swept under the rug and never re-surface????

I personally would not be able to sleep at night until this issue was resolved if I were the authenticator................


Just MHO............Jim

Its up.....

[ISUbirdjersey]

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Response to this topic has been posted on mears.

Incredible images of Speaker using a very short bat. There is no way that bat is any longer than the approx. 32" bat in question. Those photos are obvious proof Speaker once swung a short bat and and should raise the value of the bat in question. MEARS makes a very good point that the $20,000+ purchase price was in no way close to what the established values are. Good research and great by Troy and Dave! Especially good to know that he proved the people wrong who claimed the research would never "see the light of day." A+ response by MEARS!

David A.