Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

[Dewey2007]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

Willie Stargell
Jimmy Rollins
Johnnie LeMaster
Brian Doyle
Mario Mendoza

[platinum1]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

Frank Thomas
Tony Gwynn
Carl Ripken Jr
Ken Griffey Jr
Randy Johnson

Now for Albert Pujols, Im not sure he is being completly honest.
I honeslty think that he is atleast 2 years older then he claims to be.

[3arod13]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

Alex Rodriguez
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettite
Jason Gambi

[cubbs1232]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

1 mark grace
2 carl crawford
3 derrek lee
4 wade boggs
5 brad radke

[godwulf]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

Willie Mays Hayes

I take it you mean the one who became a doctor - not the one who's in prison for tax evasion.

Seriously, I think there are so many levels and gradations of "use" to consider. Is somebody who tried steroids a couple of times, maybe even while in the Minors, and then goes on to have a Hall of Fame career (or even just a really good one) "dirty"? Is a player who uses them briefly, for legitimate medical reasons, "dirty" forever, and even retroactively?

I think about Matt Williams, one of my favorite ballplayers of all time. At the end of his career, Matty suffered some serious foot injuries, so after yet another one in Spring Training in '02, he bought steroids and HGH (which wouldn't be banned by MLB until '05), at the suggestion of his doctors, to promote faster healing. He didn't like the drugs, and only used them for a short time. Matt retired in '03. Am I supposed to lump the Sarge in with people like Bonds and Canseco?

[Manram]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

[quote=3arod13;235102]Alex Rodriguez
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettite
Jason Gambi[/

Hahahahah

[bagbig]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

I take it you mean the one who became a doctor - not the one who's in prison for tax evasion.

Seriously, I think there are so many levels and gradations of "use" to consider. Is somebody who tried steroids a couple of times, maybe even while in the Minors, and then goes on to have a Hall of Fame career (or even just a really good one) "dirty"? Is a player who uses them briefly, for legitimate medical reasons, "dirty" forever, and even retroactively?

I think about Matt Williams, one of my favorite ballplayers of all time. At the end of his career, Matty suffered some serious foot injuries, so after yet another one in Spring Training in '02, he bought steroids and HGH (which wouldn't be banned by MLB until '05), at the suggestion of his doctors, to promote faster healing. He didn't like the drugs, and only used them for a short time. Matt retired in '03. Am I supposed to lump the Sarge in with people like Bonds and Canseco?

You got to be crazy to actually believe any player that says he only used them to cover speed up recovery time from an injury. That is the easy way out to blame an injury. Where is the proof that Matt Williams, Petitte, Fernando Vina(give me a break), among others did NOT use BEFORE the injury. Players know that they can blame an injury and then they will look like a team player.

[rj_lucas]

Re: Your top 5 clean players of all time and current?

Any five players whose careers ended prior to the invention of steroids in the 1930's. Any player after that is theoretically suspect, including some of the most revered players from the 1950's, who were well documented to have injected testosterone taken from monkey testicles. To suggest that this is somehow a new problem or limited to the years between 1990-2000 is completely absurd. Google 'Lyle Alzado' for crying out loud.

Rick
rickjlucas@gmail.com