1969 spring trainig flannels

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  • dbushing1
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 14

    #16
    Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

    Absence of patch, gray, no team in 1968. I would agree. Year books usually came out in spring and usually got updated later in season so first yearbook should show some examples. Dave, great example to search for in early Topps cards of 1970. Look to see there is no signs where a 69 patch may have been removed.

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    • dirtyla2000
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 269

      #17
      Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

      Originally posted by dbushing1
      Absence of patch, gray, no team in 1968. I would agree. Year books usually came out in spring and usually got updated later in season so first yearbook should show some examples. Dave, great example to search for in early Topps cards of 1970. Look to see there is no signs where a 69 patch may have been removed.
      Thankyou for the feedback! No signs of a patch ever being there! LOOKED AT 69 Expos yearbook and cant tell if the pics of road unis(only 2,the rest are home whites) are grey or the light blue. The black and white photos make it impossible! Iwould love to know for sure!

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      • dirtyla2000
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 269

        #18
        Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

        Originally posted by dbushing1
        The Pilots, Padres and Expos did not have a team in 1968. I have owned both the Pilots and Padres 1969 Spring Training shirts. They were made and worn in the spring. They got different shirts for the regular 1969 season. Pilots spring training shirts are fairly common and sell in the $1000 range while regular season examples sell between $12-20000. Padres spring jerseys sell in the $400 range while regular season examples with the sleeve patch sell in the $1000 plus range. Dave M was right on the money with these pics.
        One more question. Were the Pilots and Padres 69 spring training jerseys made by Wilson? The 69 expos with the 100 anniversary patch were made by Rawlings!

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        • sox83cubs84
          Banned
          • Apr 2009
          • 8902

          #19
          Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

          Originally posted by dirtyla2000
          One more question. Were the Pilots and Padres 69 spring training jerseys made by Wilson? The 69 expos with the 100 anniversary patch were made by Rawlings!
          The Pilots spring unies, home and road, were Wilson productions. Like your beloved Expos, the Padres wore Rawlings for home, and Wilson for the road, which carried over into the regular season, at least in terms of suppliers used.

          Dave Miedema

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          • dirtyla2000
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 269

            #20
            Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

            Originally posted by sox83cubs84
            The Pilots spring unies, home and road, were Wilson productions. Like your beloved Expos, the Padres wore Rawlings for home, and Wilson for the road, which carried over into the regular season, at least in terms of suppliers used.

            Dave Miedema
            So I guess this must be a 69 Expos spring training jersey! Thankyou for the info!

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            • sox83cubs84
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 8902

              #21
              Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

              2000, I think you're on to something here. Brand is of the dimensions, height and weight wise, that would reasonably be accommodated in that era by a size 40, and the lack of year tagging (which also existed in both Pilots spring styles) is a possible sign as well. I'm looking to check some more photos, and will post when I do. The only possible sticking point is the lack of a front number, as the home whites (such as in the Jaster card) have one.

              Dave Miedema

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              • sox83cubs84
                Banned
                • Apr 2009
                • 8902

                #22
                Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                It looks as if there might have been other established teams than the Indians also wearing the 1969 MLB 100th Anniversary patch in '69 spring training. Check out the 1970 Topps card of Grant Jackson below:




                The background certainly appears to be a spring training site, and this card was in the first series of the set that year, meaning that there is no way the photo could be a 1970 spring camp image. Any input pro or con would be appreciated.

                Dave Miedema

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                • bobw
                  Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 30

                  #23
                  Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                  I think the Grant Jackson photo was taken in Shea Stadium

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                  • sox83cubs84
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 8902

                    #24
                    Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                    This background is pretty cloudy. I've seen Shea's outfield background on other cards...if this is, indeed, it, it's hard for me to tell.

                    I guess I'll try to access some more 1969 photo of Phils players and see if I can find more evidence, or a lack thereof.

                    Dave Miedema

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                    • bobw
                      Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 30

                      #25
                      Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                      Found 3 photos of 1969 Phillies uniforms with the 100th Anniversary patch.

                      The first one is of Terry Harmon. This looks like Spring Training.




                      The second two are of John Penn and Bob Boone. However both players played 1969 with the Raleigh-Durham Phillies in the Carolina League, so I'm not sure whether the photos were taken during Spring Training or during the regular season.

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                      • sox83cubs84
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 8902

                        #26
                        Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                        Nice work. I'm still looking for a chance to do my own research, but it looks like you may have answered my question already. Thanks, Bob.

                        Dave Miedema

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                        • bobw
                          Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 30

                          #27
                          Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                          Here are some photos of the 1969 Astros in Spring Training w/ the patch

                          Scipio Spinks and Bob Watson



                          Cesar Geronimo and Jack Billingham

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                          • sox83cubs84
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 8902

                            #28
                            Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                            Bob, you're finding some choice photos there...many thanks. Does anyone else (or Bob) have more '69 spring traing photos with the patch visible on jerseys? I'd love to see 'em.

                            Dave Miedema

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                            • ironmanfan
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 2252

                              #29
                              Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                              Originally posted by bobw
                              Found 3 photos of 1969 Phillies uniforms with the 100th Anniversary patch.

                              The first one is of Terry Harmon. This looks like Spring Training.




                              The second two are of John Penn and Bob Boone. However both players played 1969 with the Raleigh-Durham Phillies in the Carolina League, so I'm not sure whether the photos were taken during Spring Training or during the regular season.
                              Good work although I'm curious what makes you think these photos are from the spring of 1969 as opposed to the spring of 1970? Are they dated or were these players in different organizations then?

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                              • bobw
                                Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 30

                                #30
                                Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

                                You may be right about wearing them in Spring Training in 1970. Here are 2 picture of Joe Sparma in an Expos jersey with the Anniversary Patch. He was traded to the Expos in December of 1969 so these pictures must be from 1970.

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