1969 spring trainig flannels

[sox83cubs84]

Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

One more question. Were the Pilots and Padres 69 spring training jerseys made by Wilson? The 69 expos with the 100 anniversary patch were made by Rawlings!

The Pilots spring unies, home and road, were Wilson productions. Like your beloved Expos, the Padres wore Rawlings for home, and Wilson for the road, which carried over into the regular season, at least in terms of suppliers used.

Dave Miedema

[dirtyla2000]

Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

The Pilots, Padres and Expos did not have a team in 1968. I have owned both the Pilots and Padres 1969 Spring Training shirts. They were made and worn in the spring. They got different shirts for the regular 1969 season. Pilots spring training shirts are fairly common and sell in the $1000 range while regular season examples sell between $12-20000. Padres spring jerseys sell in the $400 range while regular season examples with the sleeve patch sell in the $1000 plus range. Dave M was right on the money with these pics.

One more question. Were the Pilots and Padres 69 spring training jerseys made by Wilson? The 69 expos with the 100 anniversary patch were made by Rawlings!

[dirtyla2000]

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Absence of patch, gray, no team in 1968. I would agree. Year books usually came out in spring and usually got updated later in season so first yearbook should show some examples. Dave, great example to search for in early Topps cards of 1970. Look to see there is no signs where a 69 patch may have been removed.

Thankyou for the feedback! No signs of a patch ever being there! LOOKED AT 69 Expos yearbook and cant tell if the pics of road unis(only 2,the rest are home whites) are grey or the light blue. The black and white photos make it impossible! Iwould love to know for sure!

[dbushing1]

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Absence of patch, gray, no team in 1968. I would agree. Year books usually came out in spring and usually got updated later in season so first yearbook should show some examples. Dave, great example to search for in early Topps cards of 1970. Look to see there is no signs where a 69 patch may have been removed.

[dirtyla2000]

Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

From 1969ST, a Rawlings home Expos flannel...again, no 100th Anniversary patch. The road blue Wilsons were the same way.

Dave Miedema

I believe this to be a 1969 Ron Brand spring training jersey and as you can see, it is not the usual road blue flannel. Any opinions would be welcomed.

[sox83cubs84]

Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

The Pilots, Padres and Expos did not have a team in 1968. I have owned both the Pilots and Padres 1969 Spring Training shirts. They were made and worn in the spring. They got different shirts for the regular 1969 season. Pilots spring training shirts are fairly common and sell in the $1000 range while regular season examples sell between $12-20000. Padres spring jerseys sell in the $400 range while regular season examples with the sleeve patch sell in the $1000 plus range. Dave M was right on the money with these pics.

Those three plus the Royals. As far as the Indians flannels go, Flaco might be right...I'd have to see one hands on to say year or nay.

Dave Miedema

[dbushing1]

Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

The Pilots, Padres and Expos did not have a team in 1968. I have owned both the Pilots and Padres 1969 Spring Training shirts. They were made and worn in the spring. They got different shirts for the regular 1969 season. Pilots spring training shirts are fairly common and sell in the $1000 range while regular season examples sell between $12-20000. Padres spring jerseys sell in the $400 range while regular season examples with the sleeve patch sell in the $1000 plus range. Dave M was right on the money with these pics.

[flaco1801]

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Dave...arent those 69 spring flannels all really 68 gamers?. they would open the season with new jerseys for the 69 season with patch.... just my thoughts...

[sox83cubs84]

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Dave, great study of expansion spring training vs reg. season shirts using baseball card images. I used this to try and show the different styles of White Sox hats from 1951-63. It is a perfect tool when patches from a single season are used but I would caution to watch out for baseball card pictures that have been used for more than one season. Not so in your study, just a caution in that they sometimes recycled pics for more than one season. Dave

True, MAWGA. For the 1969 set, old/recycled photos are VERY common from series 1-4. Tommie Aaron's 1969 card has the exact same photo as his 1963 Topps card, and Mel Nelson's card has an early 1960's photo, as well. These multiple years-old photos are far less prevelant in Series 5-7 (where Topps began using spring training 1969 photos as well as phots of players on the four expansion teams in their new uniforms.

Dave Miedema

[dbushing1]

Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

Dave, great study of expansion spring training vs reg. season shirts using baseball card images. I used this to try and show the different styles of White Sox hats from 1951-63. It is a perfect tool when patches from a single season are used but I would caution to watch out for baseball card pictures that have been used for more than one season. Not so in your study, just a caution in that they sometimes recycled pics for more than one season. Dave

[sox83cubs84]

Re: 1969 spring trainig flannels

One American League team (Cleveland) wore the 1969 MLB 100th Anniversary patch on their spring training jerseys. Showing this is the card below, a last series (back in the days of 7 series) 1969 Topps card of pitcher Jack Hamilton, acquired in the offseason from the Angels.




I am aware of one other 1969 spring item with the 100th Anniversary patch being worn in spring training...that will be the next (and likely final) installment of this thread.

Dave Miedema

[sox83cubs84]

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Of course, there are the 1969 Seattle Pilots spring training flannels.


While vastly different in design from their regular season styles, the home and road spring shirts have only one difference between home and road versions, that being the jersey color...white for home and grey for road. Wilson made both, both lack tagging aside from the Wilson label, both use the same front design (see above), both have identical numbers on the back, and both use single-color blue letters and numbers on front and back.

My next entry on this thread will involve a unique version worn by a non-expansion team in the Arizona sun.

Dave Miedema

[sox83cubs84]

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The San Diego Padres also had differences in 1969 spring vis-a-vis regular season jerseys. Preston Gomez is shown in a 1969 spring training photo, with a Padres front road jersey and no sleeve patch on the jersey.




Come the regular season, however, and the road gamers showed a SAN DIEGO front, while both home and road versions had the San Diego Bicentennial patch (and no MLB 100th Anniversary patch).




I had no luck finding pics of either home uniform, but the basic description given covers those, as well.

Dave Miedema

[sox83cubs84]

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From 1969ST, a Rawlings home Expos flannel...again, no 100th Anniversary patch. The road blue Wilsons were the same way.

Dave Miedema

[sox83cubs84]

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The more the merrier, Dan. Keep in mind, though, that this won't just be a Royals thread...the other three 1969 expansion teams will also be featured, as well as at least one estblished ballclub as well.

Dave Miedema