I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

[CollectGU]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Completely understandable I also want to get to the bottom of this.As far as I know there is only one other all star bat that has been authenticated and that is the AMI bat.I feel until Scott can provide evidence of his bat it can't be accounted for.I am not by any means trying to accuse Scott of lying but why not provide photos if you believe you intact own the home run bat.In a way scott not being willing to show photo evidence to backup his claim hurts the credibility of mine.

Scott has mentioned in posts that he has photo AND video matched his. anyone asked him to provide that evidence. Until I see the evidence, I'm going to say this one has a better chance of being the HR bat......

Dave

[therealaxis]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Found a few more photos!

[bigtruck260]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Is that bottom pick from the HR Derby in '89? Did they use regular season baseballs during the derby?

I only say it because Bo looks like he's wearing a hat in the bottom photo.

Dave

[therealaxis]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Is that bottom pick from the HR Derby in '89? Did they use regular season baseballs during the derby?

I only say it because Bo looks like he's wearing a hat in the bottom photo.

Dave

Yes I think that photo is from the Derby.I noticed the same thing and have been trying to find out information regarding the balls used for the Derby but can't find info anywhere.If any one can help please let me know

[Bravesfan]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

I'm not sure they used any special balls for the derby those years. I can't remember them being anything special.

[byergo]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Looks like John from PSA/DNA got part of the LOA correct in that the bat in question from this thread was NOT used by Bo Jackson in the 1989 All Star game, but rather the regular season (if Bo used it at all--which is questionable as I've never seen any evidence of Bo using a block "LOUISVILLE" bat during the regular season). Pretty easy to tell from the blue ball transfer marks and complete lack of red marks (my bat, the real one, exclusively has red marks, with zero blue marks which in bat language translates to: "used in the All Star game and not the regular season, BP, or otherwise"). BTW--I am the person who raised the issue of red ball marks (and posted an image of what a 1989 official All Star Game baseball looks like) in the first place after John botched the authentication for the fire damaged American Memorabilia '89 Bo All Star bat in the first place (that bat had so many problems--where do I start?!). This critical, all important factor wasn't discussed by anyone until I raised the issue. Pat on the back for myself, but it isn't that hard when you are holding the real deal in your hand and carefully examining it!

John is incorrect about the number of these bats that were produced. The Louisville Slugger records, which I've never seen, may indeed refer to 2 bats, but it's been well established there are more than that. So the factory records obviously cannot be relied upon for 100% factual data which is unfortunate. That being the case however, why quote information that's been proven incorrect in the LOA?

Before anyone asks again, no I'm not going to post any pics of my bat online. There are too many of these All Star Bo Jackson block "LOUISVILLE" floating around, and I am increasingly annoyed each time one of these new "Johnny come lately" bats suddenly appears out of nowhere years later and attempts to pose as the real thing. Especially when backed with wild speculation, incorrect assumptions, and a lot of cocky attitude. I generously offered a few years ago for anyone who wished to view the bat in person to have the opportunity and nobody took me up on it. "If Scott doesn't post pics of his bat I'll have to assume mine is the homerun bat, even though it has 100% incorrect ball marks, and in other respects which I don't understand, is obviously not the real bat." LOL!

Bottom line and takeaway message: I own the bat that Bo used in the 1989 All Star game and hit the monstrous 448 ft. homerun with. It's photo and video matched. I'm glad to report that this treasure has been well preserved in it's proper All Star game used state, not damaged and broken in the regular season following the All Star game, nor burned in a fire like the American Memorabilia bat. It's the most important bat from Bo's career and the centerpiece of my collection.

I'm glad I happened across this thread, but I don't spend much time collecting game used items anymore and rarely visit this forum so I won't have additional comments for you. If you require more information this topic has been beat to death in prior threads from years ago which were referenced by other posters and which you can search for. Till the next time one of these Bo block LOUISVILLE bats appears out of nowhere and attempts to pose as the Real McCoy and fails, which sadly I have no doubt will occur! I told you last time this issue came up it would happen...

Peace.

[therealaxis]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Looks like John from PSA/DNA got part of the LOA correct in that the bat in question from this thread was NOT used by Bo Jackson in the 1989 All Star game, but rather the regular season (if Bo used it at all--which is questionable as I've never seen any evidence of Bo using a block "LOUISVILLE" bat during the regular season). Pretty easy to tell from the blue ball transfer marks and complete lack of red marks (my bat, the real one, exclusively has red marks, with zero blue marks which in bat language translates to: "used in the All Star game and not the regular season, BP, or otherwise"). BTW--I am the person who raised the issue of red ball marks (and posted an image of what a 1989 official All Star Game baseball looks like) in the first place after John botched the authentication for the fire damaged American Memorabilia '89 Bo All Star bat in the first place (that bat had so many problems--where do I start?!). This critical, all important factor wasn't discussed by anyone until I raised the issue. Pat on the back for myself, but it isn't that hard when you are holding the real deal in your hand and carefully examining it!

John is incorrect about the number of these bats that were produced. The Louisville Slugger records, which I've never seen, may indeed refer to 2 bats, but it's been well established there are more than that. So the factory records obviously cannot be relied upon for 100% factual data which is unfortunate. That being the case however, why quote information that's been proven incorrect in the LOA?

Before anyone asks again, no I'm not going to post any pics of my bat online. There are too many of these All Star Bo Jackson block "LOUISVILLE" floating around, and I am increasingly annoyed each time one of these new Especially when bac"Johnny come lately" bats suddenly appears out of nowhere years later and attempts to pose as the real thing.ked with wild speculation, incorrect assumptions, and a lot of cocky attitude. I generously offered a few years ago for anyone who wished to view the bat in person to have the opportunity and nobody took me up on it. "If Scott doesn't post pics of his bat I'll have to assume mine is the homerun bat, even though it has 100% incorrect ball marks, and in other respects which I don't understand, is obviously not the real bat." LOL!

Bottom line and takeaway message: I own the bat that Bo used in the 1989 All Star game and hit the monstrous 448 ft. homerun with. It's photo and video matched. I'm glad to report that this treasure has been well preserved in it's proper All Star game used state, not damaged and broken in the regular season following the All Star game, nor burned in a fire like the American Memorabilia bat. It's the most important bat from Bo's career and the centerpiece of my collection.

I'm glad I happened across this thread, but I don't spend much time collecting game used items anymore and rarely visit this forum so I won't have additional comments for you. If you require more information this topic has been beat to death in prior threads from years ago which were referenced by other posters and which you can search for. Till the next time one of these Bo block LOUISVILLE bats appears out of nowhere and attempts to pose as the Real McCoy and fails, which sadly I have no doubt will occur! I told you last time this issue came up it would happen...

Peace.

Wow I am glad you made your way to my post Mr.Byergo.I first of want to say I certainly did not mean to come off cocky in any way I am not sure how you got that impression so for what ever may have made you feel that way I apologize.All I wanted to do was get some answers on my bat I never said 100 percent that I owned the HR bat, I don't understand why you took it as a personal attack on you or the bat you say you have.
Now to your post you say there has been many versions of this bat appear but the only other one I have seen that is not the wrong model number replica version is the one on AMI.I am aware that there are a number of the replica models floating around but my bat is clearly not one of them.You also mentioned that there were many things that disprove my bat from being the HR bat,other then the blue ball mark what else is there I am interested to know????
Bo had 4 total at bats in the all star game,are you telling me that it is impossible the red ball did not leave transfer marks?Here is a soulution that will end all this now,If you claim to have video/photo matches of your bat post that evidence it should defiantly disprove any other so called as you put it...... "Johnny come lately" bats that suddenly appear out of nowhere years later and attempt to pose as the real thing with wild speculation, incorrect assumptions, and a lot of cocky attitude.Hopefully I hear back from you with at least the willingness to provide that thanks in advance!

[spartanservitto]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Wow I am glad you made your way to my post Mr.Byergo.I first of want to say I certainly did not mean to come off cocky in any way I am not sure how you got that impression so for what ever may have made you feel that way I apologize.All I wanted to do was get some answers on my bat I never said 100 percent that I owned the HR bat, I don't understand why you took it as a personal attack on you or the bat you say you have.
Now to your post you say there has been many versions of this bat appear but the only other one I have seen that is not the wrong model number replica version is the one on AMI.I am aware that there are a number of the replica models floating around but my bat is clearly not one of them.You also mentioned that there were many things that disprove my bat from being the HR bat,other then the blue ball mark what else is there I am interested to know????
Bo had 4 total at bats in the all star game,are you telling me that it is impossible the red ball did not leave transfer marks?Here is a soulution that will end all this now,If you claim to have video/photo matches of your bat post that evidence it should defiantly disprove any other so called as you put it...... "Johnny come lately" bats that suddenly appear out of nowhere years later and attempt to pose as the real thing with wild speculation, incorrect assumptions, and a lot of cocky attitude.Hopefully I hear back from you with at least the willingness to provide that thanks in advance!

I agree. It sounds weird why you would want to hide it, especially here. I get the issues with privacy and maybe not allowing people to know what you have. But you've already spoke about it, a lot of people are curious. You would do the collecting community a service, including those authenticating items like JT a service but availing what is the legit home run bat. I dont see why you wouldn't want to share that.

-Tony

[vballGuy]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Sorry to chime in here......

But, @byergo claims to have photomatched the bat from a Topps baseball card, from a few other photos and also claimed to have video-matched it from the 1989 All-Star game. To me, it seems logical that if @byergo was able to do this, then you (@therealaxis) should do the same. I understand you got the bat from a reputable source, but even your PSA/DNA letter expresses some concerns (most notably the fact that your bat has no red marks on it).

I say the only way to prove that your bat is or isn't the one is to try and photo-match/video-match yourself. Clearly, @byergo doesn't want to post pics of his bat, and you are most likely not going to change his mind. So why not investigate yourself? Like I said, you should be able to at least track down footage of the '89 All-Star game. (There are websites selling old 80s and 90s footage on DVD). Then you can put all of these questions to rest, instead of relying on someone who has stated many times that he will not post his evidence.

One thing I found interesting in the previous posts that @byergo wrote in '06 was that the word "BO" was not on the handle or the top of his bat, as it is in your bat. I'm assuming this would be a relatively easy trait to pick up on footage of the game, or even from a Topps card that he claims to have photomatched his to.

[vballGuy]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Sorry to chime in here......

But, @byergo claims to have photomatched the bat from a Topps baseball card, from a few other photos and also claimed to have video-matched it from the 1989 All-Star game. To me, it seems logical that if @byergo was able to do this, then you (@therealaxis) should do the same. I understand you got the bat from a reputable source, but even your PSA/DNA letter expresses some concerns (most notably the fact that your bat has no red marks on it).

I say the only way to prove that your bat is or isn't the one is to try and photo-match/video-match yourself. Clearly, @byergo doesn't want to post pics of his bat, and you are most likely not going to change his mind. So why not investigate yourself? Like I said, you should be able to at least track down footage of the '89 All-Star game. (There are websites selling old 80s and 90s footage on DVD). Then you can put all of these questions to rest, instead of relying on someone who has stated many times that he will not post his evidence.

One thing I found interesting in the previous posts that @byergo wrote in '06 was that the word "BO" was not on the handle or the top of his bat, as it is in your bat. I'm assuming this would be a relatively easy trait to pick up on footage of the game, or even from a Topps card that he claims to have photomatched his to.

Sorry just realized that the word "BO" is not on your bat, so please ignore last portion of my message.

[therealaxis]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Sorry to chime in here......

But, @byergo claims to have photomatched the bat from a Topps baseball card, from a few other photos and also claimed to have video-matched it from the 1989 All-Star game. To me, it seems logical that if @byergo was able to do this, then you (@therealaxis) should do the same. I understand you got the bat from a reputable source, but even your PSA/DNA letter expresses some concerns (most notably the fact that your bat has no red marks on it).

I say the only way to prove that your bat is or isn't the one is to try and photo-match/video-match yourself. Clearly, @byergo doesn't want to post pics of his bat, and you are most likely not going to change his mind. So why not investigate yourself? Like I said, you should be able to at least track down footage of the '89 All-Star game. (There are websites selling old 80s and 90s footage on DVD). Then you can put all of these questions to rest, instead of relying on someone who has stated many times that he will not post his evidence.

One thing I found interesting in the previous posts that @byergo wrote in '06 was that the word "BO" was not on the handle or the top of his bat, as it is in your bat. I'm assuming this would be a relatively easy trait to pick up on footage of the game, or even from a Topps card that he claims to have photomatched his to.

My bat does not have Bo written on the top nor the bottom only the AMI bat has that trait.I have all of the photos scott has and it is impossible to come up with an exact photo match which is the only reason john said he can not put in writing mine is the HR bat,he also told me he is aware of scott and does not believe he is the owner of the HR bat due to his research.I have footage of the game on its way to my house right now should be here tomorrow or sat and hopefully I can put this to rest finally!

[vballGuy]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

My bat does not have Bo written on the top nor the bottom only the AMI bat has that trait.I have all of the photos scott has and it is impossible to come up with an exact photo match which is the only reason john said he can not put in writing mine is the HR bat,he also told me he is aware of scott and does not believe he is the owner of the HR bat due to his research.I have footage of the game on its way to my house right now should be here tomorrow or sat and hopefully I can put this to rest finally!

Awesome! I would say your best hope is video footage of the game. Best of luck.

[Rob L]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Just my 2 cents worth (which doesn't amount to much), but 4ABs and no smearing of the red labels? Makes very little sense!

[sylbry]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

The 1989 All Star Game home run was hit with Bo's first swing of the bat. Assuming this very first swing left a red ball mark is foolish. The lack of a "red" mark means nothing in regards to being the actual home run bat. But I will agree with Scott, the blue marks would indicate it saw usage beyond the All Star Game, if it was used in the All Star Game at all.

Therealaxis - I have the 1989 All Star Game on my DVR. Send me your address and I will burn all of Bo's at bats onto DVD and mail it to you. You have my email address.

[CollectGU]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Before anyone asks again, no I'm not going to post any pics of my bat online. There are too many of these All Star Bo Jackson block "LOUISVILLE" floating around, and I am increasingly annoyed each time one of these new "Johnny come lately" bats suddenly appears out of nowhere years later and attempts to pose as the real thing. Especially when backed with wild speculation, incorrect assumptions, and a lot of cocky attitude. I generously offered a few years ago for anyone who wished to view the bat in person to have the opportunity and nobody took me up on it. "

My only question is WHY wouldn't you share it? I'm sure you likely have it, but the stance of not sharing it and not putting it to rest gives the appearance that maybe you don't have a photo match. It's absurd to think that people who want to see your photo match must travel to you to see it in person!

Dave