Arrest at the National?

[DeacDoug]

Re: Arrest at the National?

I would to thank Jeff for educating me and the forum on the Cards' 2002 patches. I know he went to some trouble to do this. After reviewing my "Pujois" jersey, the patches clearly fall into the retail or suspect category. There is no 3D effect and the stitching is not the professional kind done on real jerseys. It is highly doubtful that the jersey is a real one.

If the FBI and Postal Inspectors are really interested in these alleged crimes, I think they need to follow the trail of consignors to uncover where the bogus jerseys really originated. It is one or few folks doing this or are there a bunch of crooks doing this nationwide? They are the real evil folks in this mess, and some are pretty good at creating a professional jersey likeness.

It would help if the auction houses cared more about the long-term health of the business and if Lou would spend more time authenticating each jersey. He probably sees more jerseys than anybody so he should have gained some expertise in this area. As a practical matter, however, nobody can be an expert on every sports team.

[DoctorLoomis]

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I know with 1000000% CERTAINTY that Jensen and VA have sold bad jerseys. I told him it was bad...and presented ROCK SOLID PROOF it was bad...he auctioned it anyway. Further, as the Tom Brady game used lid thread from a couple weeks ago shows, VA has and continues to try and sell items that are questionable....at best. I have no sympathy for him....I hope he goes down.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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This situation just proves the value of this forum and its members.

[gnishiyama]

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If you read the article, the agent returned the 1999 All-Star Game McGwire jersey as fake after McGwire himself said it had to be fake because he owned the real one. So there wasn't much gray area there about its authenticity and why it was being returned in that instance.

I do and always will have a problem with the above quote because
we have all seen time and time again players not really knowing
what they are talking about. Much of what they say has to be
taken with a grain of salt. It's just too bad McGwire's word
in itself will probably hold up in the court of law NO MATTER WHAT..
does anyone else see the irony?

It leads me back to reading how Barry Halper would have players
"authenticate" items that were later found to be fake. Also
all those bad ASI and Elite game used jerseys with completely inaccurate
game-used inscriptions.

I would take Jeff Scott's information about authenticating real Pujols
gamers over Pujols' word any day. A player can say whatever
he wants.

I'm not saying McGwire is lying but with what we know now about
players and the hobby, their word by itself should be not be good enough.

Goh Nishiyama

[cjw]

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Certainly not trying to defend the man charged or his actions, but if this updated story is quoting correctly, (regarding the Gov't's case surrounding details of the Arod jersey) then a false conclusion has been made.

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/vintage-authentics-investigation-continuing/

"The conclusion was reached for a number of reasons, including that (a) the Mariners kept all of the home jerseys issued to players in 1995,"

There are 1995 M's home jersey in the market and more are getting out each day thanks to the recent team store find/sale.

Just saying.....