M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

[mmonte4]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Paragon auctions as a whole is a joke. yet you seem to hold some validity to them when they offered that BS kobe rook in comparison to my own Kobe rook. contradictory?

see:
Kobe Rookie Uniform - I refuse to believe it!

post #11,17,18,19,20

Mick,

The main reason I have doubts about your jersey was that Dan had it listed along with the complete uniform. 2 problems: #1 - the shoes included in the package were NOT rookie shoes, and thus were NOT worn during Kobe's rookie year. #2 - the autograph on the jersey is NOT a rookie autograph, meaning the jersey was signed at a later date. This does not mean that your jersey isn't the real deal, it simply creates a cloud of doubt.

As for the Paragon Kobe jersey, you are right, the specs on that one are way off.

[mickeymbz]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Yep, and from what I understand he issues a very generic COA with the item. His Dream Team jersey collection in the last Paragon Auction was a joke. I can't believe they ran it.

Paragon auctions as a whole is a joke. yet you seem to hold some validity to them when they offered that BS kobe rook in comparison to my own Kobe rook. contradictory?

see:
Kobe Rookie Uniform - I refuse to believe it!

post #11,17,18,19,20

[CPuente57]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Last year I blindly purchased a Penny Hardaway Game Used Jersey from them. I was relatively new to the game and they also sent me a "practice worn" Penny jersey, but it was one of those NBA reversible jerseys, didn't look worn at all, I ended up not feeling comfortable with the purchase so I returned it and got a full refund back with no problems.

[mmonte4]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

I think I answered my own question , font on back arches are off...anything else? So are these recently manufactured fakes, commerative jerseys...what do you think .... The autograph basketballs look legit?

No, those Paragon Dream Team jerseys are actually from 1992 are are quiet rare, they just weren't the jerseys used in games and are therefore no where near as valuable. Now, there have been some recently sold 1992 Dream Team jerseys that have correct specs (at first glance), but are actually well made FAKES manufactured just a few years ago. Watch out for the 1996 All Star jerseys as well. It is very tough to tell the difference unless you know exactly what to look for. A fellow forum member attempted to sell me all three fakes and almost took me for $20k. Lucky for me, another collector associate of mine had recently received a fake himself (unlucky from him of course), and shared the real vs fake differences with me.

[mickeymbz]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Yes sir! Cause one time I bought a Kobe Gamer from this seller, said it came from Jeff Hamilton, but the jersey turned out to be a procut....Names and numbers were double stitched, so returned the item for a refund for which he graciously accepted. Seems the seller is not aware of what he sells, thinks as long as it has the Jeff Hamilton LOA its legit......

jeff hamilton LOA buncha garbage...reminiscent of the 90's milwaukie bucks ballboy justin LOA's. if a price a shirt is to good to be true...tjen its to good to be true. SoCal is offering up procuts to newbies as gamers is nothing new. be wary of them

[worldchamps]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Mmonte, I saw this post, and am very curious on the dream team jerseys, and what was wrong with...can you advise what is bad on them? Thanks for your time

I think I answered my own question , font on back arches are off...anything else? So are these recently manufactured fakes, commerative jerseys...what do you think .... The autograph basketballs look legit?

[worldchamps]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Yep, and from what I understand he issues a very generic COA with the item. His Dream Team jersey collection in the last Paragon Auction was a joke. I can't believe they ran it.

Mmonte, I saw this post, and am very curious on the dream team jerseys, and what was wrong with...can you advise what is bad on them? Thanks for your time

[nickacs]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Yea, sorry Cammy, but that's not a game worn MJ jersey. Actually I don't even see anything in the SoCal letter that states it is? I just see it's "spec'ed" or issued like an MJ jersey.

Like others said, NOB is the #1 identifier to determine if any 90's+ Jordan gamer is real.

Here's a nice close-up of one from Nov '96:

[cammy collector]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

*here* it is if anyone is interested..

[cammy collector]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Did you get this from buyitnow on ebay? Because all of this sellers Kobe and MJ's stuffs comes from Jeff Hamilton with Jeff Hamilton LOA too..

yup, that's correct. the COA is actually issued from "SoCal Authentics". here it is if anyone is interested.

[Kabron1971]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

The jacket guy?

Yes sir! Cause one time I bought a Kobe Gamer from this seller, said it came from Jeff Hamilton, but the jersey turned out to be a procut....Names and numbers were double stitched, so returned the item for a refund for which he graciously accepted. Seems the seller is not aware of what he sells, thinks as long as it has the Jeff Hamilton LOA its legit......

[mmonte4]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

The jacket guy?

Yep, and from what I understand he issues a very generic COA with the item. His Dream Team jersey collection in the last Paragon Auction was a joke. I can't believe they ran it.

[trsent]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Did you get this from buyitnow on ebay? Because all of this sellers Kobe and MJ's stuffs comes from Jeff Hamilton with Jeff Hamilton LOA too..

The jacket guy?

[Kabron1971]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

Did you get this from buyitnow on ebay? Because all of this sellers Kobe and MJ's stuffs comes from Jeff Hamilton with Jeff Hamilton LOA too..

[cammy collector]

Re: M.Jordan 96-97 Jersey: REWARD offered for photomatch

hmmm, that sucks

eh.. I got it for $800 so no worries either way. I just thought I got lucky with a gamer