Game Used vs. Game Issued Jerseys

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  • gadsden86
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    Good to know guys thanks for the input.

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  • mad87man
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    Originally posted by chd49er
    Game issued means the jersey, pants, helmet, cleats etc. are made to the players specifications and are game ready but have not been used by the player. Basically they would be one of the spares that did not get used.

    Clay
    cdubois@carolina.rr.com

    ALWAYS BUYING 49ER GAMERS!!!
    I like to go with this description. Like i know Favre always liked or heard he liked 2 jerseys in his locker and sometimes switched at halftime. If he didn't wear one of them i would say its issued.

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  • sox83cubs84
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    Another offshhoot that I would call "game-issued": a uniform made for the player's use, but unused due to the player being cut or traded before the season of intended usage began. I once had a John Verhoeven White Sox jersey that was made for him, but never worn as he was let go and picked up by the Twins prior to season's beginning. To me, that would aslo be "game-issued". (FWIW, Verhoeven ended up buying the jersey from me, as he never got to keep ny of his Chisox uniforms).

    Dave Miedema

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  • frikativ54
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    Originally posted by gingi79
    Many a thread has been started, debated and argued on the term Game Issued. I think it is generally accepted that any jersey made to exact specifications for a player and hanging in the players locker with the intentions of being used but somehow never worn = Game Issued.

    However when selling a jersey, people tend to use the term for any jersey that isn't "screened on numbers" replica. MeiGray GI falls into the initial catagory. NFL Auctions tends to retard generally accepted language with things like "Issued" "Team Specs" and "Team Issued"

    For me, unless it falls into the first description, it's an "Authentic" jersey.
    If it isn't delivered to the player, then I consider it "game model." Such items don't fetch the same premium as game used or even game issued. Some will try to pass factory extras as game issued, but to me, it's not issued if it never reached the player.

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  • chd49er
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    Game issued means the jersey, pants, helmet, cleats etc. are made to the players specifications and are game ready but have not been used by the player. Basically they would be one of the spares that did not get used.

    Clay
    cdubois@carolina.rr.com

    ALWAYS BUYING 49ER GAMERS!!!

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  • gingi79
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    Many a thread has been started, debated and argued on the term Game Issued. I think it is generally accepted that any jersey made to exact specifications for a player and hanging in the players locker with the intentions of being used but somehow never worn = Game Issued.

    However when selling a jersey, people tend to use the term for any jersey that isn't "screened on numbers" replica. MeiGray GI falls into the initial catagory. NFL Auctions tends to retard generally accepted language with things like "Issued" "Team Specs" and "Team Issued"

    For me, unless it falls into the first description, it's an "Authentic" jersey.

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  • gadsden86
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    Ok so while getting more into game jerseys. I have see a few Game issued jerseys.
    What exactly is a issued jersey vs used.
    I know used means they wore it in the game and shows use.
    But what exactly is issued? Worn on the sideline? Had extra just incase they needed it? Made but never worn by the player....

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  • slab0meat
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    Re: Game Used vs. Game Issued Jerseys

    Originally posted by mlupo
    Personally I do not care for game issued items, I want an item that shows some use. To me, if you are going to buy a team issued jersey, why not just buy a retail authentic? Who knows if that team issued jersey was ever even in the same room as the player.

    An easy answer is for authentic patches that may not be available for purchase (or to avoid the hassle of buying patches and having them sewn on)....

    Or is someone prefers a size 46 or 50 or something..

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  • mlupo
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    Personally I do not care for game issued items, I want an item that shows some use. To me, if you are going to buy a team issued jersey, why not just buy a retail authentic? Who knows if that team issued jersey was ever even in the same room as the player.

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  • mad87man
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    Originally posted by solarlottry
    I consider any jersey that was worn in the game, regardless if the player played or not, game used.

    Lets say a special teams player is on the field for one play, but they call a time out before the play starts, and then he is taken out of the game and does not return-is that game used? He saw the field but didnt participate in a play. I think if someone is suited up and ready to go then it is game used.

    Also from a baseball standpoint, lets say a pitcher comes out of the bullpen and is about to throw a pitch and the batter calls time out. Then the manager comes and makes a pitching change before the pitcher has thrown a pitch. Is that shirt game used? He was on the mound, ready to go but the manager took him out before he could throw a pitch. How is that different from just sitting in the bullpen ready to go?

    People may disagree with that and think that a player has to be actively involved in the game for a shirt to be game used. I think that if a player is suited up the shirt is game used. It may not show any use but that is something for the collector to take into account when buying the jersey.

    Always buying 49ers gamers and ANY 1994 shirt. Paying up to a 500$ finders fee
    Paul
    garciajones@yahoo.com
    Yeah i can agree with this as well. He used the item in a game he just wasn't participating in it.

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  • solarlottry
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    I consider any jersey that was worn in the game, regardless if the player played or not, game used.

    Lets say a special teams player is on the field for one play, but they call a time out before the play starts, and then he is taken out of the game and does not return-is that game used? He saw the field but didnt participate in a play. I think if someone is suited up and ready to go then it is game used.

    Also from a baseball standpoint, lets say a pitcher comes out of the bullpen and is about to throw a pitch and the batter calls time out. Then the manager comes and makes a pitching change before the pitcher has thrown a pitch. Is that shirt game used? He was on the mound, ready to go but the manager took him out before he could throw a pitch. How is that different from just sitting in the bullpen ready to go?

    People may disagree with that and think that a player has to be actively involved in the game for a shirt to be game used. I think that if a player is suited up the shirt is game used. It may not show any use but that is something for the collector to take into account when buying the jersey.

    Always buying 49ers gamers and ANY 1994 shirt. Paying up to a 500$ finders fee
    Paul
    garciajones@yahoo.com

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  • jppopma
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    "Team issued" gets bounced around here alot. The best way to think of team issued is being a jersey that was made for the player, but not used for some reason. The reasons can vary greatly; player injured, player gets trade, jersey made up for a minor league player who never gets the call up, or even jerseys in different sizes for the player to chose from. Regarless of the reason, a team issued jersey should have all of the proper tagging, patches, etc.

    It get's tricky when you consider that MLB will not authenticate anything as game worn unless they SEE the player in the jersey. So if the authenticator is not there, or the team chooses to have everything authenticated at the end of the season.....then they are all codes as team issued, even though it may have tons of wear.

    The next issue is like with the Pennigton...where does it do from game issued to promotional use to bench use? There are strict collectors out there who will deem a one game TBTC jersey as game issued if it is a player (often pitchers) who didn't pitch in the game. Is there really a big difference between a jersey worn for an inning of work and one that was worn by the player, just on the bench?

    Next is pricing....in the case of lower end players, there is not going to be much difference because the gamers are so cheap themselves. On the higher end, there is not much difference in price because there is a big enough demand for that player. Somewhere in the middle though, the prices of team issued jerseys can be as much as half of the price.

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  • masp3392
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    Originally posted by Dolphins23
    whats the difference between, game used, player issued vs team issued

    Is team issued not specific final cut to jersey for player

    and game issued is the players exact cuts to jersey, just he never wore it.

    and game used is worn in game or on sideline during a game


    I ask because I just bought a Game Issued Pennington jersey from 09 season when he was listed on IR the whole season, but I'm pretty sure he wore the jersey on the sidelines with no pads on sometimes. So whats this considered?
    i would still consider that game worn, he did technically wear it during a game, just didnt play.

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  • Dolphins23
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    whats the difference between, game used, player issued vs team issued

    Is team issued not specific final cut to jersey for player

    and game issued is the players exact cuts to jersey, just he never wore it.

    and game used is worn in game or on sideline during a game


    I ask because I just bought a Game Issued Pennington jersey from 09 season when he was listed on IR the whole season, but I'm pretty sure he wore the jersey on the sidelines with no pads on sometimes. So whats this considered?

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  • Shipp_96
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    As many have touched on this post already, the main difference is price. But sometimes that price is minor. For an "average" NFL player, you may only pay $25-50 less for an issued jersey than a worn one. But if you collect that player (or in my case a University), it is well worth it.

    Bigger name players are one way to go for the issued jersey, as say you may not want to shell out 12k for Ichiro, but might pay 3k for his issued jersey (I would not personally, but for instance...).

    Also, game worn can carry a much deeper significance depending on how and when that player wore those jerseys, cleats, helmet, etc.

    I think for framing and potentially getting them signed, game issued is the way to go. But if you are into the torn, grass stained, mud, stink and rips then game worn is for you.

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