Braves make trade with teen for Chipper's 450th HR

[LastingsMilledge85]

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http://features.rr.com/article/07pJ79kbfH03S

http://reds.enquirer.com/2002/07/11/red_all-star_tv_ratings.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/156284-the-best-and-worst-sports-in-terms-of-sportsmanship

Just a couple of articles. I will get your ratings in a second as oppose to footballs ratings, give me a minute.

Exactly like I thought, not one of these articles support the fact the baseball is the lowest rated or watched sport in the United States. By pulling out an article about one World Series and one All-Star Game does not support the fact that baseball, is the lowest rated sport in the United States. All you are talking about is one game (Super Bowl, World Series, etc.), what does that have to do with sports ratings in its entirety? You can't tell me that baseball has higher ratings (viewers) than the WNBA, NHL, MLS, etc.

[Dolphins23]

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Look at the superbowl/ world seires ratings. It says it all. Collin Cowherd says it best my friend. Now I'm not trying to down play the die hard fans. Because I know a lot of guys on here love the hobby of collecting there past time. And that I can appreciate. But its just the fact that the game itself is boring. The collecting is cool, but the game IMO ehhh.

[Dolphins23]

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I said major sports

Football
basketball
hockey
baseball

And take the Marlins for instance. Some fan base 305 people at a game this year. My dolphins who play in the same stadium draw a lot more and they are horrid. Why is that?

[Shipp_96]

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http://features.rr.com/article/07pJ79kbfH03S

http://reds.enquirer.com/2002/07/11/red_all-star_tv_ratings.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/156284-the-best-and-worst-sports-in-terms-of-sportsmanship

Just a couple of articles. I will get your ratings in a second as oppose to footballs ratings, give me a minute.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love Penn State football like nothing else out there . But, your statement was baseball is the worst rated sport. That is clearly your opinion, and you are entitled to dislike baseball.

But to support your opinion as factual, you used an article that is from 2002? The other is a blog piece about sportsmanship that has nothing to do with ratings. Then you pulled one about the Super Bowl, that adds no merit to your argument at all. I do not believe anyone would argue the popularity of the NFL or the Super Bowl in America. The article about last year's World Series is the only one that is actually valid to your point. But that is one event, not an entire season of rating (playoffs, all star game, etc).

I tend to believe the NHL, NBA and MLS are clearly lower ranked than the MLB is. But that is my opinion .

[Dolphins23]

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I know im going to take heat from all the baseball fans saying show me the proof and all that, but truth of the matter is they just don't want to accept the fact that baseball is on its way down every year. Until they develop a salary cap its going to continue to have no excitment for the avg city fan.

And what the Braves did to that girl was an absoulte joke and they took advantage of another baseball fan, just like they did the jeter 3000th kid. They just don't think of the fans and could care less.

[LastingsMilledge85]

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And this is why baseball is where it is today. (Lowest ratings in the nation as far as sports)

I said major sports

Football
basketball
hockey
baseball

Not once you said that

And take the Marlins for instance. Some fan base 305 people at a game this year. My dolphins who play in the same stadium draw a lot more and they are horrid. Why is that?

The Marlins play how many home games in a season? 81. Your Dolphins? 0. The Miami Dolphins? 8. That's a big chunk as to why.

[Dolphins23]

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http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3622:mlb-sees-tv-ratings-down-for-2009-regular-season&catid=57:television&Itemid=122

Heres another credited source. MLB itself!

[Dolphins23]

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Not once you said that




The Marlins play how many home games in a season? 81. Your Dolphins? 0. The Miami Dolphins? 8. That's a big chunk as to why.

If the Dolphins played 1000 games there a season they would draw more then 300 fans.

[Shipp_96]

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This is a great article that breaks down the MLB, NHL and NBA rankings by market. I think they do not include the NFL due to it's on top of all of them.

MLB does better in every market except LA, Boston (NBA), DC, Pittsburgh (NHL) in cities with both an MLB and NHL/NBA team.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2010/04/local-on-eights-ratings-for-nba-mlb-and/

[Dolphins23]

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Lastings I understand you love baseball and your going to defend it and I would do the same if I loved the sport. So I'm not saying there are no fans out there. What I'm saying is the Avg fan will not watch a baseball game over a football fan. Not talking the Die hards who grew up going to the games and watching the games when they were great! That ended in the 90's for me though.

And If you can honestly say that the game is a better sport today than it was in 1980's than thats your opinion.


Now I ask Lastings. Is the sport better today? Or better back in the 80's-90's

[LastingsMilledge85]

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If the Dolphins played 1000 games there a season they would draw more then 300 fans.

Is this a joke? 1000 games, I know you are exaggerating but your numbers are laughable. The Marlins averaged 18,770 fans per game in 2009 (2010 stats aren't released yet). It's going to take a lot more than 300 fans per game to reach that number. The Marlins are in the worst market for baseball, so you are comparing the worst team attendance to a middle-market NFL team.

Lastings I understand you love baseball and your going to defend it and I would do the same if I loved the sport. So I'm not saying there are no fans out there. What I'm saying is the Avg fan will not watch a baseball game over a football fan. Not talking the Die hards who grew up going to the games and watching the games when they were great! That ended in the 90's for me though.

I love baseball and football, but I'm going to stand behind sanity and realism. I'm not sticking up for baseball per say. There's a reason why I rarely post on here anymore, and posts like these speak volumes. But when I see ridiculous false statements on here, someone has to stand up.

Now I ask Lastings. Is the sport better today? Or better back in the 80's-90's

Well, the '90s was the steroids era, so the sport wasn't better, but the homeruns flocked people to the games and television. '80s? Wasn't watching.

[OaklandAsFan]

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I said major sports

Football
basketball
hockey
baseball

And take the Marlins for instance. Some fan base 305 people at a game this year. My dolphins who play in the same stadium draw a lot more and they are horrid. Why is that?

well first and foremost you are talking about 81 home games a year vs 8 so of course more people are gonna show up.

[Dolphins23]

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well first and foremost you are talking about 81 home games a year vs 8 so of course more people are gonna show up.

No I know you guys are right. I guess its a hard argument when dealing with opinions.

I just feel baseball dose not have the appeal to me that it once had. Just my opinion. I used to love baseball growing up because it was an outdoor summer sport that was awsome to go watch. But now I just can't stomach it anymore. I guess It's because I'm young and need more action to keep attention spane. They say with age you learn to appreciate the pace of baseball a lot more. So maybe when I'm in my 40's-50's (taken I live that long) I will appreciate the game more than I do now.

[Trublubrucru]

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With the advent of digital cable, television ratings have become somewhat diluted. With 500 or so channels, the population base is spread out over many more choices than even ten years ago. Attention spans are not what they used to be either, too many choices and distractions. Personally, last season I never got through an entire NBA game, and I think NHL is unwatchable on t.v. A truer measure of the sport popularity might be attendance to games, check those figures.

[momen55]

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ok. what about thew chipper ball trade? she shouldn't have gave in. screw them! i would have gone to the media or someone to bring this cheap stunt out.
the dumbies running mlb are nothing more than greedy bastards who don't care about anyone but themselves, and it is obvious and it shows. selig and everyone else are deadbeats.