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  • mickeymbz
    Banned
    • Feb 2011
    • 644

    #16
    Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

    Originally posted by kudu
    Sure, but to replicate a true photomatch. Thats a pretty tough thing to do. And to call photomatching "amatuerish" is a pretty condescending remark, and to me, puts him in a bad light.
    totally agree!! again he is not going to be for something that may negate the use of his third party authenticating business,,,, LOA's are as wholesome as used toilet paper

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    • TriplexXxSports
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1285

      #17
      Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

      Originally posted by kudu
      Sure, but to replicate a true photomatch. Thats a pretty tough thing to do. And to call photomatching "amatuerish" is a pretty condescending remark, and to me, puts him in a bad light.
      Correct. You WILL NEVER duplicate a true photomatch. It is just humanly impossible.

      Amateurish...? That comment in itself is laughable.

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      • TriplexXxSports
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1285

        #18
        Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

        Originally posted by joelsabi
        just one question: what homework did you do on your favorite jersey if you pre-ordered it?
        I ordered it during halftime of that game. I saw that by the half the jersey was destroyed, I had the game on record, so I called them up.

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        • joelsabi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 3073

          #19
          Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

          Originally posted by TriplexXxSports
          I ordered it during halftime of that game. I saw that by the half the jersey was destroyed, I had the game on record, so I called them up.
          To take a game issued football jersey and make it look like a heavily used jersey that can be matched to photos can be done but it would take an true artist to pull it off.

          If that photo matched jersey was preordered and sold right after the game, it would be impossible to fake. It also help that it was never washed. You would need time and effort and much talent and expertise for anyone to pull off a well executed fake. Never seen anyone with that much talent yet.

          Continues success with your Chicago Bears collection. I hope someone else get the contract when the terms of the JO deals expires at the end of the season.
          Regards,
          Joel S.
          joelsabi @ gmail.com
          Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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          • otismalibu
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 1650

            #20
            Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

            You WILL NEVER duplicate a true photomatch. It is just humanly impossible.
            Sure, but what percentage of 'collectors' know what a true photo match is? Look at some of the examples of matches, posted on this board.

            What? What do you mean the numbers and lettering is wrong? Huh? They didn't use that tag until after he retired? That smudge is in the wrong spot? It's got a letter!!!!
            Greg
            DrJStuff.com

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            • kprst6
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 158

              #21
              Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

              Every legitimate dealer should sue the writer of this article!!!

              I hate people that know nothing about a subject, yet talk about it like they are an expert.

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              • TriplexXxSports
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 1285

                #22
                Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                Originally posted by otismalibu
                Sure, but what percentage of 'collectors' know what a true photo match is? Look at some of the examples of matches, posted on this board.

                What? What do you mean the numbers and lettering is wrong? Huh? They didn't use that tag until after he retired? That smudge is in the wrong spot? It's got a letter!!!!
                And for those exact reasons, Otis, is why you (the collector) need to do your homework...

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                • Eric
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 1970
                  • 2848

                  #23
                  Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                  National Football Post has also picked up the story...

                  Football betting news and picks with focus on NFL, college football and sports betting legalization updates across the United States.
                  Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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                  • TriplexXxSports
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1285

                    #24
                    Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                    Originally posted by Eric
                    National Football Post has also picked up the story...

                    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...raud-2442.html
                    404 Error Page, Eric. Link is not working.

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                    • otismalibu
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1650

                      #25
                      Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                      Greg
                      DrJStuff.com

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                      • jppopma
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 926

                        #26
                        Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                        Interesting read. Like Matt mentions and we hear over and over again, do your own homework and be comfortable in your purchases.

                        The biggest thing to remember is that not ever jersey from a rock solid seller good, and likewise not every jersey from the lowest and shadiest of sellers is bad. The broad brushing of ALL JO Sports jerseys sometimes gets out of hand. Each jersey should be able to stand on its own.

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                        • SkubeBats
                          Banned
                          • May 2006
                          • 2452

                          #27
                          Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                          First off I would like to say that I'm glad that this subject is brought up once again. The more times it's brought to the publics attention the more people will be warned about these six guys and their crimes.

                          Also I happy to se that some NFL teams are starting to cut their ties with JO SPORTS CO. It shouldn't have taken this long for them to act on this. I hope more team will follow them.

                          As for Rick Moore's (34swtns) comment "When you were a kid, did you ever steal money for candy or cigs? Sure you do we all did." How can you compare that to what Jo Sports did? They didn't just steal change they stole people's hard earned money and their savings. Now that's not even close to the same.

                          Now for what Troy Kinunen had to say "Photo matching is a very amateurish way to authenticate". I find that statement to be funny. MEARS uses photo matches in some of their own auctions for authentication purposes. Also he brings this up so you feel like your only option is for you to bring your items to him or another 3rd party for authentication.

                          I still for one find all these 3rd party's authentiction servies a waste of our money. Do yourself a favor a do your own homework!

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                          • kprst6
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 158

                            #28
                            Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                            Looks like MEARS just lost a lot of respect and their reputation is tarnished because their statements are extremely amature.

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                            • ironmanfan
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 2252

                              #29
                              Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                              Originally posted by kprst6
                              Looks like MEARS just lost a lot of respect and their reputation is tarnished because their statements are extremely amature.
                              In case you're keeping score at home, I haven't lost any respect for MEARS..

                              amature???

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                              • trsent
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 3739

                                #30
                                Re: Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

                                Originally posted by ironmanfan
                                In case you're keeping score at home, I haven't lost any respect for MEARS..

                                amature???
                                I'll put money on Troy being misquoted and/or misunderstood by a reporter who doesn't fully understand the industry.

                                Troy believes in photo-matching and/or style-matching if done right.

                                How can he not.

                                What his comments do is give the MEARS haters a chance to put down Troy once again. Why so much hate in this world? Shouldn't we all just love one and other?

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