Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

No chance it could be an instance where a sticker/s may have fallen off, correct? Because (to me) the number decals match up perfectly to the 1999 example of the Dainon Sidney helmet that sold in the pic I provided. Is it possible the helmet is a 1999 one and would have been merely a practice used helmet of Dennis Stallings? ….Or are there too many problems past that in your estimation?

I REALLY appreciate the help as I’m very much hoping this helmet is/was real – the middleman is a friend of mine from the baseball games who is 15 and has been doing his best to take pictures and try to look at date codes, etc, so I haven’t dealt directly with the seller who is his neighbor. To his knowledge this is the only game worn thing he owns. The other thing I wonder is if someone’s faking a Dennis Stallings/Randall Godfrey helmet, how seriously in trouble is our hobby? My friend is going to try to get more pics of the inside of the helmet and anything else I may need pics of.

[helmets]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

In 1999 the Titans had already stopped using numbers on the rear of the helmets.

The American flag was not worn until 2001 and beyond.

The Titans used double facemask clips on the sides on the majority of their helmets in 1999. Even McNair - the quarterback wore double (two) clips on the sides of his helmet.

The majority of Titans wore Schutt facemasks in 1999 - not Riddell. There were a couple of Riddell facemasks on the team, but the vast majority were Schutt.

The mixture of brands of facemask clips does not bother me. The Schutt are the correct brand of clips IMO for the Titan helmets from this period. Many equipment managers have mixed clips with mask and helmet brands. Red Batty of the Packers use to mix them, and often times went just the opposite of this helmet - using Riddell clips with Schutt masks. Many times he used Schutt on the top mounts and Riddell on the sides.

To me, this helmet and the AMI helmet have some issues for a true 1999 Titan gamer.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

In 1999 the Titans had already stopped using numbers on the rear of the helmets.

The American flag was not worn until 2001 and beyond.

The Titans used double facemask clips on the sides on the majority of their helmets in 1999. Even McNair - the quarterback wore double (two) clips on the sides of his helmet.

The majority of Titans wore Schutt facemasks in 1999 - not Riddell. There were a couple of Riddell facemasks on the team, but the vast majority were Schutt.

The mixture of brands of facemask clips does not bother me. The Schutt are the correct brand of clips IMO for the Titan helmets from this period. Many equipment managers have mixed clips with mask and helmet brands. Red Batty of the Packers use to mix them, and often times went just the opposite of this helmet - using Riddell clips with Schutt masks. Many times he used Schutt on the top mounts and Riddell on the sides.

To me, this helmet and the AMI helmet have some issues for a true 1999 Titan gamer.

That helps a TON - Are you confident about the Eddie George helmet as well? I'm going ahead and purchasing that provided nobody thinks it's bad. Thank you VERY much, Helmets!

[helmets]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Preston - I see the George helmet auction has ended. Did you buy it?

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Preston - I see the George helmet auction has ended. Did you buy it?

I agreed to pay him a lesser amount than the listed price. Should I be worried?

[tom1315]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Preston, my William Hayes 2011 game helmet is a Riddell helmet with a 02-11 Riddell facemask. I would be careful...would make me nervous and at $250 a truly excellent price.

If you cannot match somehow through Getty or another picture source I would be very cautious.

Tom

Go Pack! NC State 1981 graduate

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Hey Tom,

I appreciate the help a lot - I'm definitely moving on from the "56" helmet - I'm WAY more interested in the Eddie George "said" helmet. I've agreed to a price with the seller assuming it checks out. That's the only thing I need to make sure - I do know someone on this thread did say they thought it look good but you never can have too many people chime in that know what they're talking about!

[tom1315]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Hey Tom,

I appreciate the help a lot - I'm definitely moving on from the "56" helmet - I'm WAY more interested in the Eddie George "said" helmet. I've agreed to a price with the seller assuming it checks out. That's the only thing I need to make sure - I do know someone on this thread did say they thought it look good but you never can have too many people chime in that know what they're talking about!

One more thought Preston...anyway you could ask Eddie George via an email via a link with whomever he works for today or via Linkedin?

I was interested in a Roman Gabriel jersey awhile back and I had the privilege to meet him in person and talk about his playing days at State and the Rams/Eagles. He confirmed the jersey was not his being sold so my interest plummeted. Above is just a thought...if you can contact George I suspect he may help!

Tom

Go Pack! NC State 1981 graduate

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

One more thought Preston...anyway you could ask Eddie George via an email via a link with whomever he works for today or via Linkedin?

I was interested in a Roman Gabriel jersey awhile back and I had the privilege to meet him in person and talk about his playing days at State and the Rams/Eagles. He confirmed the jersey was not his being sold so my interest plummeted. Above is just a thought...if you can contact George I suspect he may help!

Tom

Go Pack! NC State 1981 graduate

You definitely think a lot like me - I tweeted him earlier today but no response as of yet...

Hey Helmets - do you believe the Eddie helmet is legit also?

[BrianK]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Facebook or Twitter.

http://www.facebook.com/EddieGeorge27?sk=wall#!/EddieGeorge27/info

FWIW, the characteristics look right for 2003 ... but there's not much wear.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Facebook or Twitter.

http://www.facebook.com/EddieGeorge27?sk=wall#!/EddieGeorge27/info

FWIW, the characteristics look right for 2003 ... but there's not much wear.

Also friends with him on facebook as well - I haven't thought about that route though yet.

The seller did say there's wear though on the facemask and some paint transfers. So thankfully it's not just issued.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Facebook or Twitter.

http://www.facebook.com/EddieGeorge27?sk=wall#!/EddieGeorge27/info

FWIW, the characteristics look right for 2003 ... but there's not much wear.

So the "27" sticker inside looks good and you believe it to be legit also?

[helmets]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Hey Helmets - do you believe the Eddie helmet is legit also?

I looked at the George helmet and it looks ok to me. Alot to like. Not sure about the #27 identifier on the interior. Not sure what the Titans used. I own a couple of older Titans and for those years, the Titans used a blue number on the inside.

I do like the fact that the helmet has a Titanium facemask. These are a bit rare except on game used or issued helmets. The retail on a titanium mask is roughly $125 compared to $25. Hence, not many were installed to helmets passed off as gamers. I also like the double clips going in the same directions which George went back to in 2003 - from the opposite direction facing clips. The side Titan decals are positioned properly with regards to the upper chinstrap mounting snaps - which the snaps are also positioned properly as shown in photos of George with regards to the top corners of the facemask.

In the photos of the helmet from the ebay listing, there does not seem to be a lot of wear for a runningback like George, however helmets were reconditioned often with new decals, facemasks, etc. In addition, often times wear on a helmet can not be seen in photos.

The last thing that I like is that that 2003 was the last year that George played for the Titans. Normally helmets from the last year of a career are available - either through given to the player, or sold/given away by the team. Some other years may be reconditioned and re-used or reissued to another player.

Lot's to like.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

I looked at the George helmet and it looks ok to me. Alot to like. Not sure about the #27 identifier on the interior. Not sure what the Titans used. I own a couple of older Titans and for those years, the Titans used a blue number on the inside.

I do like the fact that the helmet has a Titanium facemask. These are a bit rare except on game used or issued helmets. The retail on a titanium mask is roughly $125 compared to $25. Hence, not many were installed to helmets passed off as gamers. I also like the double clips going in the same directions which George went back to in 2003 - from the opposite direction facing clips. The side Titan decals are positioned properly with regards to the upper chinstrap mounting snaps - which the snaps are also positioned properly as shown in photos of George with regards to the top corners of the facemask.

In the photos of the helmet from the ebay listing, there does not seem to be a lot of wear for a runningback like George, however helmets were reconditioned often with new decals, facemasks, etc. In addition, often times wear on a helmet can not be seen in photos.

The last thing that I like is that that 2003 was the last year that George played for the Titans. Normally helmets from the last year of a career are available - either through given to the player, or sold/given away by the team. Some other years may be reconditioned and re-used or reissued to another player.

Lot's to like.

EXACTLY what I was hoping to hear - thank you VERY much! Of course I want to hear the right answer but this was the "hope" anyway!