Babe Ruth game used bat for $10,000

[sicollector1954@insightbb.com]

Re: Babe Ruth game used bat for $10,000

Ken--Did the same thing after I finished e-mailing him and saw the bat was back listed again. Hopefully, other people will do the same and he can be kicked off for good.

[bat_master]

Re: Babe Ruth game used bat for $10,000

Hi Everyone,

I too reported this item. I'm glad to see Dave didn't get burned on that deal. I saw the bat right away and was actually glad for once that I don't have huge cash flow. Of course when i saw the seller I backed off of the MAKE OFFER button pretty quickly.

Glad to see things seem to be working out. Now if we can just get this guy off of ebay permanently! I hope others are reporting this item too.

Tim Byington
t_byington@yahoo.com

[CansecoPower33]

Re: Babe Ruth game used bat for $10,000

Shocking! I've also reported the bat. Considering the money involved, this is serious stuff.

[worldchamps]

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I think this is awesome, that would be a financial blow that would be hard to take.

The other questions I have about this is, the bat that was in the Maestro auction? How does it differ from this bat and is it a real gamer then??

Bill

[earlywynnfan]

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Bill, I'm just going off the cuff here, not researching or even bothering to look anything up, but the main difference in this bat is that it had 36 stamped into the knob, which this SOB sanded off. I'm sure the Mastro bat is a true gamer.

Ken

[sicollector1954@insightbb.com]

Re: Babe Ruth game used bat for $10,000

Bat has been sold with a buy it now. The buyers identity has been listed as private. However, if anyone is interested in contacting the seller--the name is Peter Freund and a number I have is 914-329-1887. Perhaps he can give all of us a good deal on something vintage!

[worldchamps]

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Ken,

Just to educate myself....the only difference between a Ruth Gamer and a model is the 36 stamped on the knob?

Bill

[sicollector1954@insightbb.com]

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Just received this information. I will let everyone just decide for themselves and I am now done with this matter. However, I will continue to watch for these same types of actions in the future to keep this hobby honest and clean. I hope others out there will do the same. Thanks much.

[sicollector1954@insightbb.com]

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Whoops! Just thought of something after re-reading the reply from the seller and I have talked with another individual bat collector who was told the same thing. We were both informed that this bat was a consigned item and was being sold by a gentleman who had received it from his father and it had hung over the fireplace for the past 40 years! Now he says he purchased it and "looked to profit from that"......enough said! No mention of the Joe Jackson sidewritten bat as well............

[Fraudfinder!!]

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I am th winner of the Ruth bat. Here is his reply.

>From: "Peter Freund" <pfreund@trinitypackaging.com>
>To: <hoaglyhoagly@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Babe Ruth Bat
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:42:10 -0400
>
>To Whom it May Concern,
>
>
>
>Not certain why I feel the need to explain this, but I am a very HONEST
>person who has over 200+ positive, legitimate transactions on EBAY without
>ever having an issue. This Babe Ruth bat has apparently created a big
>hoopla
>over a misunderstanding. First of all, I have people harassing me from all
>over the country on something that they clearly are wrong about. People are
>telling me I sandpapered off the 36" mark on the bat. I would never, ever
>do
>such a thing. Obviously, the flash in the photo blocked it out somehow
>(unintentionally). Attached is a picture with the 36" still there (and
>today's newspaper to prove it!).I said it would pass PSA/DNA and if it
>didn't I would refund payment as I believed it to be game used.Not certain
>how that constitutes fraud as I have discussed with several people the fact
>that the "125" denotes a Pro-model bat, not a store model bat like the
>"40."
>I purchased the bat for what I believed was a steal at around $1,500 and
>looked to profit from that. Clearly, I was wrong about the "deal" I
>thought
>I got on the bat, but I am now being threatened by people and I am planning
>on removing myself from the EBAY community altogether over this.
>
>
>
>Needless to say, the bat will not be re-listed and will remain in my
>collection where it belongs.
>
>
>
>Have a nice day.
>
>
>
>-Peter
>
>
>
>PS: If you read my listing, I even say it is a 36" bat!!

[nate]

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I'd like to see a similar photo in two weeks proving he didn't ship it to the recent buyer.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Fraudfinder!
Thanks for posting the photo. So she did wear Armani...WOW!

[sportscentury]

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More stellar work by Fraudfinder!! The most positive sentiment expressed by the seller is that he is thinking about removing himself from the eBay community. I think this thread should get a sticky to remind forum members to review this seller's auctions on a regular basis. If he doesn't remove himself, it will just be a matter of time for forum members to collect enough evidence to have him removed. I realize he makes money for eBay, but how long can they let this guy get away with this kind of thing? Don't forget his infamous "side-written" bats. Great work here on the part of all contributing GUU members. Nice team effort.
Reid

[nate]

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I thought Fraud Finder had opened and pasted the message from SICollector.........Same message just to two different people. The story about the bat above the fireplace is classic. Great work by all.

[earlywynnfan]

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Help me, I'm confused!!

Where did the story of the bat "hanging over the fireplace" enter into this?

Was fraudfinder the buyer at the 12 grand price? And all this came down after that??

Ken