Stolen Phillies Collection

Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

At this point we have decided to close this thread and suspend the account of the member who started it. Through an investigation of what happened, it seems apparent that there was an attempt to defraud another forum member whereby an item, after it was paid for, was never delivered and no refund given. In addition, the eBay account which sold the item was closed days following the event. Further, we were able to match the IP address of the eBay account set up to sell the supposedly stolen items and the person who started this thread and found them to be the same.

While we are not here to judge if there was criminal activity, the administrators of the forum do feel a responsibility to protect others within this community. Therefore, barring any additional information from the original poster that can substantiate otherwise, we are suspending the original poster's account until further notice.

[sportscentury]

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I'm seeing a lot of names being thrown around here - "scammer," "sham," etc. However, those posting here are offering very little concrete evidence. Where's the proof for any of this?

Seriously? Between the two GUU threads (the deleted one and this one), the various negative feedback comments left on his eBay seller accounts, his known aliases (I understand the count is up to three now) and the long and very detailed thread on GameUsedCollector, it seems to me, and I think to numerous others, that an overwhelming amount of on-point information has been provided. Did you take the time to read the GUC thread? I am told GUU moderators have additional information, but that is for them to post if they deem it appropriate.

[mickeymbz]

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b/c that infos not comimg out.. the only one who can answer that is the original poster of this thread and he obviously aint forthcoming. to much ping pong about what his motives were and what is possible and not. its obvious the poster and whoever the ebay sellers may be are deceptive..everyone here is smart enuff to stay away,,, so why keep it going?

[yanks12025]

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Moderator kill this thread once and for all

Why people should know about this seller and stuff.

[mickeymbz]

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Moderator kill this thread once and for all

[frikativ54]

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Come on Les, this guy isn't worth your assistance as if he is being railroaded.. He claimed his stuff was stolen. He not only received a settlement check from an insurance company on a policy that no one else seems to be able to even obtain but he did so before the police report was likely filed. Ever have a car accident that isn't cut and dry? I worked that field for years and was a Property and Casualty Broker in NY. Insurance companies drag their feet on any claim they can. In a court system where people spend months in jail for serious crimes, this "petty thief" was not only caught in a major sting operation but was charged and found guilty in court? It took over 2 years for anything to truly develop with JOSports yet some cat burglar is suddenly treated like Bernie Madoff? This isn't a TV legal drama. Plus everything he wanted to sell was returned? Then when he was called out on the additional issues with his items, he deletes his account with GUC?

I don't think I'm offering Robert any assistance here. And, for the record, I, along with many, find the whole thing suspicious. However, can we really call this a scam until we have more evidence that that there was a calculated attempt to deceive?

Does anyone - moderators included - have knowledge of an actual police report's being filed? Of the thief's being proven guilty? If this actually happened, isn't there a way to do some research? I would just like to get away from speculation and deal in the realm of facts.

[gingi79]

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I'm seeing a lot of names being thrown around here - "scammer," "sham," etc. However, those posting here are offering very little concrete evidence. Where's the proof for any of this?

Come on Les, this guy isn't worth your assistance as if he is being railroaded.. He claimed his stuff was stolen. He not only received a settlement check from an insurance company on a policy that no one else seems to be able to even obtain but he did so before the police report was likely filed. Ever have a car accident that isn't cut and dry? I worked that field for years and was a Property and Casualty Broker in NY. Insurance companies drag their feet on any claim they can. In a court system where people spend months in jail for serious crimes, this "petty thief" was not only caught in a major sting operation but was charged and found guilty in court? It took over 2 years for anything to truly develop with JOSports yet some cat burglar is suddenly treated like Bernie Madoff? This isn't a TV legal drama. Plus everything he wanted to sell was returned? Then when he was called out on the additional issues with his items, he deletes his account with GUC?

[frikativ54]

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My apologies to the believers, but this had to be one of the most pathetically transparent and poorly executed shams I've seen in this hobby for quite some time.

I'm seeing a lot of names being thrown around here - "scammer," "sham," etc. However, those posting here are offering very little concrete evidence. Where's the proof for any of this?

[sportscentury]

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Well it looks like the guy was a fraud and scammer anyway. I'm sure he didn't own any of those items that supposedly got stolen.

My apologies to the believers, but this had to be one of the most pathetically transparent and poorly executed shams I've seen in this hobby for quite some time.

[joelsabi]

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Well it looks like the guy was a fraud and scammer anyway. I'm sure he didn't own any of those items that supposedly got stolen.

Im trying to figure that out. You can see the Kyle Drabek jersey in this ebay listing and the photos of his collection in GUU thread below

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Game-Used-worn-2006-And-2007-Hat-And-Jersey-From-Kyle-Drabek-Phillies-/110992616486?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d7acec26

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showpost.php?p=307502&postcount=469

Is he a photo/tire collector or the owner or the friend of the owner of that collection.

[yanks12025]

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Well it looks like the guy was a fraud and scammer anyway. I'm sure he didn't own any of those items that supposedly got stolen.

[TNTtoys]

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The admin team was asked to delete the original thread on this topic sometime late November.

It was pointed out to us that some of Robert's jerseys surfaced on Craig's List and ebay (not even 2 weeks after he reported everything as having been stolen). The ebay account selling the jerseys was a brand new acct created only days before the listings.

One forum member actually contacted the seller through ebay messages and was in the process of arranging an "in person deal" with him. This proceeded in a long dialogue which abruptly ended by the seller stating that the jerseys are now sold to someone else, and from that point stopped replying to him.

The idea behind deleting the thread at the time was that we were looking into the items that were for sale on eBay and Craig's list and we didn't want the seller to know the entire game used community was on watch for the very items he was looking to sell. If that were to happen, we were afraid the items would simply go away and we wouldn't have been able to look into it further. One such item that was mentioned in Robert's original post (the Aaron Rowand St. Patrick's Day jersey) was on ebay at the time, so it was confirmed that these were his items being peddled.

I will have reinstated the original thread, as there is little point to it being deleted now. It should appear inside this one, in the correct chronological order.

[sportscentury]

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Hey man...wasnt tryin to be a dick about it. I was merely trying to point out that it is logistacally believable.

Only to some.

There's more on this on the Game Used Collector website.

Dave Miedema

Yes, there is a lot more information there about this story. I can't say I'm surprised that the OP (Robert Bradley ... or Tom Williams?) still has not responded to any of the questions posed to him in this thread.

[gorilla777]

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The swift and efficient justice system is really impressive in this case! Bravo, well done....quite a turnaround time.

[KTroublesome]

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Silly me. If only I knew a little something about criminal justice and criminal law. Oh well, thanks for setting me straight, Kevin!

Hey man...wasnt tryin to be a dick about it. I was merely trying to point out that it is logistacally believable.