Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

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Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

Hi "helmet-lover". I know coffeebeanjoe and can get a message to him if you need to. Please let me know.

I think the helmet looks good as the equipment manager would paint a red or green dot on the inside just as this helmet has.

Paul

The red or green dot is done at the Bike helmet factory (and later Schutt) to specify the size of the air bladder. Red is a medium bladder for a medium helmet, while green is a large bladder for a large helmet. Black or dark gray is for an XL. Every Pro AiR, AiR Power, or Pro AiR II has the color code.

[helmet lover]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

Joe Montana wore a Bike helmet for a few years early in his career before he & the team switched to Riddell & his helmet had a red dot on the left side of the facemask as well

[jonschuette]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

I don't know if this will apply to helmets this old but in speaking with someone who use to work with 49er equipment (I am withholding the person's name because I haven't got their permission to use their name), the inside of the helmets were painted/colored yellow/gold.

[helmet lover]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

I don't know if this will apply to helmets this old but in speaking with someone who use to work with 49er equipment (I am withholding the person's name because I haven't got their permission to use their name), the inside of the helmets were painted/colored yellow/gold.

Yeah I have read that inside the helmet when they used nothing but Riddell in the 80's is like a packers yellow.I did read where some are white too,but I would feel better if it was yellow.Could you ask "that person" if 70's & early 80's helmets were white on the inside?I would be very grateful

[jonschuette]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

I will try to get ahold of them.

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Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

Joe Montana wore a Bike helmet for a few years early in his career before he & the team switched to Riddell & his helmet had a red dot on the left side of the facemask as well

Same thing here. The red specified a mask that would fit a medium or large helmet, while a green dot on a mask was typically used for an XL helmet. I say typically because Equipment Managers will occasionally use an XL mask on a smaller helmet to pull the sides of the helmet out a bit. Likewise, occasionally a normal mask is installed to an XL helmet to pull the sides in a bit for a tighter fit.

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Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

I don't know if this will apply to helmets this old but in speaking with someone who use to work with 49er equipment (I am withholding the person's name because I haven't got their permission to use their name), the inside of the helmets were painted/colored yellow/gold.

Yes, often the 49ers would take a molded GB Gold or Sunflower Gold helmet and paint the exerior SF Gold, although I have seen many 49ers helmets that were molded white.

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Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

Yeah I have read that inside the helmet when they used nothing but Riddell in the 80's is like a packers yellow.I did read where some are white too,but I would feel better if it was yellow.Could you ask "that person" if 70's & early 80's helmets were white on the inside?I would be very grateful

I don't believe there was ever a time in the 80's that the 49ers "used nothing but Riddell."

[Jacuzzi]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

Hi Jacuzzi,I found a serial number inside this Bike helmet.It is 120821.Can you put a year with this number?

I believe it would be dated the 82nd day of 1981.

The first digit is the shell material. Adult helmets are either a 0 or 1.
The second digit is the workers shift.
The next 3 digits are the day of the year.
The last digit is the year ending number. This decade can be determined by the placement of the number stamp. 70's were on the back of the helmet. Then it moved to the back inside of the helmet. Then it moved to under the earhole. Andvsome where around '83ish the year was on the back outside left of the helmet until '87ish when it changed to a two letter system where the letters were their respective number of the alphabet. HI=89.

Hope this helps...

[DrJ]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

I've collected helmets since 1994 and this helmet looks to be spot on to me. I didn't buy it when I saw it only because I collect post 1985 and I prefer non-autographed. VERY nice helmet.

[genius]

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Dr. J--can you send a quick email, jflynn@hiddenlinksgolf.com? Have a helmet question. Thanks!

[DrJ]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

Hi - just saw this and emailed you.

[helmet lover]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

I believe it would be dated the 82nd day of 1981.

The first digit is the shell material. Adult helmets are either a 0 or 1.
The second digit is the workers shift.
The next 3 digits are the day of the year.
The last digit is the year ending number. This decade can be determined by the placement of the number stamp. 70's were on the back of the helmet. Then it moved to the back inside of the helmet. Then it moved to under the earhole. Andvsome where around '83ish the year was on the back outside left of the helmet until '87ish when it changed to a two letter system where the letters were their respective number of the alphabet. HI=89.

Hope this helps...

Ok so it is a 1981 for sure great.One thing I seen in a 1981 49ers yearbook,is that the SF logo around the black oval sticker was clear like 1/8 of an inch on a lot of players helmet.This bothered me till I noticed Montana's didn't have the clear part outside the black oval of the sticker logo

[helmet lover]

Re: Is this a real 49ers early 80's GU helmet?Opinions please

Yes, often the 49ers would take a molded GB Gold or Sunflower Gold helmet and paint the exerior SF Gold, although I have seen many 49ers helmets that were molded white.

That is very true.In a 1981 49ers Super Bowl yearbook I bought,you could see the insides of a few guys helmets on the sidelines.Most were yellow,but some were white

[PAC]

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[IMG]ttp://i.imgur.com/eEZKYOR.jpg[/IMG]
facemask looks the same

Looks like ol' Lynn fell on hard times and hawked all his gear, even his ring


There some game footage on YouTube, you might be able to get a glimpse of his helmet on there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrLke1v9cQU&feature=youtube_gdata_player