Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
Gingi79 - This is the kind of compassionate response I thought I would evoke when I initially posted this thread. You get my point 100%. These are real NFL game jerseys of a football players with enough skill, talent and athletisim to nearly make an NFL roster! The players and the jerseys have been on a long and massively important journey and with 1 minutes work with a razor blade that story ended along with the desire for ownership for a collector.
Putting the economics and locisitics of whether teams should sell or recycle jerseys, as a collector myself, I thought this butchering of an NFL gamer sucked. Thanks Gingi79, I was beginning to think it was just me that felt that way.
NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
Abstract Nike also sent out patches to teams and said here sew this over reebok logos, starter logos, and other logos. I don't think they really cared what the materials were. As long as there logo was front and center on each sleeve they were happy. The present nike actually cares about player performance. You ask any player nike or reebok 100% will say nike. They are 10 times lighter (for those of you who own new nike pants compared to reebok you hold both in each hand and tell me if you feel a difference, also try on both pairs and tell us which is better) Nike didn't make these jerseys with collectors in mind. They made them for the lightest, tightest (while maintaining comfort, and keeping defenders from grabbing a hold) and durable. If you don't like collecting new nike jerseys than its simple don't do it. I myself will only collect new Nike jerseys from this point on. The more rips and repairs the better for me. I hated that reebok mesh, and esp that dazzle everywhere. Theres a reason the Eagles and panthers are the only team that kept dazzle shoulders, its because they match there dazzle helmets very well.
I collect game used equipment... Nike, Reebok, Rawling, Riddell, etc.... I told you that I own all of it and will continue to collect it no matter WHO makes it as long as it fits into my collection. Your constant love affair with the Nike brand is just weird and it's like you're some kind of Nike fanboy. You can't like Nike and Reebok products at the same time? just weird.
My point is, your posts come across as facts instead of opinion based...Like, "Only 15 Nike jerseys have ever appeared on ebay thus far", and, "The quailty is hands down better", or "The Nike jerseys will forever be hard to find because JO is no longer a major player" or "100% of the players prefer Nike jerseys", or "So and so is buying up all the NFL Nike jerseys on the NFL auctions, so he's a sports card owner" (he isn't by the way). You must have some great contacts to know all of this stuff as fact.
You state and post as facts, and then when called out, you say they are just opinions. That's all I'm saying.
Finally, who actually wears game used pants around the house to compare quality?These are the statements that keep drawing me in to respond to your posts.
Sounds like you are a brand name collector more than a game used collector.Leave a comment:
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
Abstract Nike also sent out patches to teams and said here sew this over reebok logos, starter logos, and other logos. I don't think they really cared what the materials were. As long as there logo was front and center on each sleeve they were happy. The present nike actually cares about player performance. You ask any player nike or reebok 100% will say nike. They are 10 times lighter (for those of you who own new nike pants compared to reebok you hold both in each hand and tell me if you feel a difference, also try on both pairs and tell us which is better) Nike didn't make these jerseys with collectors in mind. They made them for the lightest, tightest (while maintaining comfort, and keeping defenders from grabbing a hold) and durable. If you don't like collecting new nike jerseys than its simple don't do it. I myself will only collect new Nike jerseys from this point on. The more rips and repairs the better for me. I hated that reebok mesh, and esp that dazzle everywhere. Theres a reason the Eagles and panthers are the only team that kept dazzle shoulders, its because they match there dazzle helmets very well.Leave a comment:
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
Yeah, super, specially engineered, deep space, high quality Nike spandex, right?
Btw, Nike made Broncos' jerseys (along with other teams) in the late 90's. They used almost the exact same construction and material as reebok (I own a few) when they took over. So, was the Nike quality bad in the late 90's??
Looks like Reebok was just following Nike's lead and giving the NFL what they wanted.Leave a comment:
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I will have to respectfully disagree about the quality of Nike jersey's being better than Reebok.
I own both Reebok and Nike game jersey's and I prefer the Reebok's hands down. They actually look like real football jersey's, not some silly gimmick model jersey that nike puts together.
Nike might have a hold on you anabolic, but not me, nor many of the people on here. There is NOTHING to make the case that the jersey's are better other than you brand loyalty.
Too bad nike isnt paying you.
He must be getting a Nike kickback.Leave a comment:
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Yeah Matt I agree. Its opinion based. Just like some people like there coffee black and others cream and sugar. Its all personal preference so theres no right or wrong. I prefer the pro-combat nike look, and most of all the feel. They are very comfortable once put on (as long as your in decent shape and wear your true size). I think the stretch twill feature is especially cool. The only part I don't like is the sweat box. I can tell you that I love the new nike pants over the reeboks, I know some of you will still prefer reebok pants. I picked up a few pairs and will post pictures soon.
Oh I also like the NFL shield on Nike jerseys so much better.Leave a comment:
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I will have to respectfully disagree about the quality of Nike jersey's being better than Reebok.
I own both Reebok and Nike game jersey's and I prefer the Reebok's hands down. They actually look like real football jersey's, not some silly gimmick model jersey that nike puts together.
Nike might have a hold on you anabolic, but not me, nor many of the people on here. There is NOTHING to make the case that the jersey's are better other than you brand loyalty.
Too bad nike isnt paying you.Leave a comment:
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
The worst part was they didn't even use seam rippers, just a straight edge razor blade. "Oh, you want a game worn jersey from this player? Riiiiip" "Who?"
Some of us collect guys who aren't wearing #15. Many of us know some guy who signed on as an undrafted rookie, random 3 year player, etc. I happen to like Maybin but his Preseason jerseys don't exist now. The name on his Bengals jersey was removed quicker that the stubble next to my goateeLeave a comment:
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
No, they rip a lot easier because of the over all material used to construct them.Leave a comment:
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
Only 15 Nike jerseys have hit ebay so far?
I just collect Bucs game used jerseys and these have been on ebay.
Dallas Clark Red
Dallas Clark White
Davin joseph White
Gerald McCoy red
So are you saying that 4 of the 15 total Nike game used NFL jerseys to hit ebay were Buccaneers jerseys?
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
Originally posted by MulligansI have quite a few GU Nike Jerseys and I certainly wouldn't pay extra for one? IMO.....There is absolutely nothing special about them at all....other than the fact that they seem to rip a lot easier.
I agree....once a couple of years go by, there will be far less of a discussion......Just like all of the Jersey Brands that came before them.Leave a comment:
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I disagree. No More J.O sports to flood the market. And a ton of teams don't sell them anymore (and a lot of teams recycle). I don't think they will be easy to get at all. You know how many nike jerseys hit eBay from now until release? 15 jerseys. Getting Nike jerseys will not be as easy as it is to get reeboks.
Nike is 100x better than reebok. All I buy is Nike sneakers, I would never ever buy a pair of reeboks. So I guess I'm a Nike loyalist. I think the swoosh on an NFL uniform is the best. Also the quality of the Nike gamers is second to none.
Still would love to know why the quality is "second to none"...Oh yeah, I forgot, because you buy their shoes and think the swoosh looks "the best"...Really?? I own both and don't seen the big deal really, but whatever.
Bottom line is Nike jerseys WILL be available on ebay and other places in time... SheeeshLeave a comment:
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Jake Believe it or not I was including those Buccs gamers in on the 15. I saw every single one of those buccs gamers. They are plentiful on NFL auctions but eBay there aren't many at all.
And they do rip a lot easier due to the spandex upper.Leave a comment:
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Re: NFL Hard Knocks 2013 - Recycling of Cincinnati Bengals game jerseys.
I have quite a few GU Nike Jerseys and I certainly wouldn't pay extra for one? IMO.....There is absolutely nothing special about them at all....other than the fact that they seem to rip a lot easier.
I agree....once a couple of years go by, there will be far less of a discussion......Just like all of the Jersey Brands that came before them.Leave a comment:
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