Value of Pujols game used bat

[Soonerfan65]

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John, thanks for sharing the email from PSA. Interesting response.

Not sure there's anywhere else to go with this. One one side, you have the player stating the bat was not used by him. On the other side, you have an authenticator stating it was.

I think at this point people can choose who they want to believe and leave it at that.

Yeah that's kinda what it seems like doesn't it?

[rj_lucas]

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John, thanks for sharing the email from PSA. Interesting response.

Not sure there's anywhere else to go with this. One one side, you have the player stating the bat was not used by him. On the other side, you have an authenticator stating it was.

I think at this point people can choose who they want to believe and leave it at that.

[Soonerfan65]

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Ok I have been in contact with Taube regarding this bat and have also forwarded on some info I have received from emails on this bat. This is what he sent me today. "Our LOA confirms the bat as a pro model 'used' by Pujols. Use could be batting practice. We do not confirm game use."

There is more in the email on the subject of X-Bats but this is the gist of what he sent me. He also floated out there the question of whether BP was included in the statement that he never used an X-Bat with the flag.

Please do not turn this into a bashing thread; if you have anything you can add please do but keep it nice. Thank you.

John

[Steeleraddict]

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Spartanservitto is right on with his prices. It seems I've paid exactly that price range.

[PAC]

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Thanks Mike but the lingering question that still bothers me is who used all these x-bats with the flags on the handle if Pujols did not use them? How do you explain the red paint on the end of the barrel from the bat rack? If this isn't a gamer then its one damn good fake

Anybody with a ball, a pair of cleats, a sharpie, and some red paint.

So, let's see, that narrows the suspect list down to about 500 million people.

[Hoosier39]

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Thanks Mike but the lingering question that still bothers me is who used all these x-bats with the flags on the handle if Pujols did not use them? How do you explain the red paint on the end of the barrel from the bat rack? If this isn't a gamer then its one damn good fake

Well, the questions you are asking now can be asked for any game used bat...

[Soonerfan65]

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Below is the result of research conducted by forum member Jeff Scott (copyright 2010.) For a complete analysis of Pujols' professional game model bats, see the link below ...

"Be especially wary of X-Bats made prior to 2006 because the general public could purchase bats identical to those used by players. These retail bats had the flag of the Dominican Republic on the handle (pro bats did not have the flag). When you see these for sale as "gamers," the flag usually remains. If there is no flag, look for a rectangular void in the bat finish indicating where a flag may have been removed. X-Bats will be labeled "Model 24/Pro Maple 34" or "Model 13/Pro Maple 34" and should not have any kind of flag on the handle. "


---- Jeff Scott, BirdBats



http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Notes%20and%20Articles/Pujols%20bat%20buyers%20guide.htm

Mike

Thanks Mike but the lingering question that still bothers me is who used all these x-bats with the flags on the handle if Pujols did not use them? How do you explain the red paint on the end of the barrel from the bat rack? If this isn't a gamer then its one damn good fake

[Hoosier39]

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So does the flag on the bat resemble a retail, or is this just pertaining to Pujols bats?

[MSpecht]

Re: Value of Pujols game used bat

Below is the result of research conducted by forum member Jeff Scott (copyright 2010.) For a complete analysis of Pujols' professional game model bats, see the link below ...

"Be especially wary of X-Bats made prior to 2006 because the general public could purchase bats identical to those used by players. These retail bats had the flag of the Dominican Republic on the handle (pro bats did not have the flag). When you see these for sale as "gamers," the flag usually remains. If there is no flag, look for a rectangular void in the bat finish indicating where a flag may have been removed. X-Bats will be labeled "Model 24/Pro Maple 34" or "Model 13/Pro Maple 34" and should not have any kind of flag on the handle. "


---- Jeff Scott, BirdBats



http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Notes%20and%20Articles/Pujols%20bat%20buyers%20guide.htm

Mike

[Soonerfan65]

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Are there any authenticators that use this forum? Would love to get their take on this

[rj_lucas]

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If Pujols is not using these bats then who is? Again how come the guys that do this for a living are not aware that these bats are not used by Albert? Taube told me he had never heard about the flag story before

You just asked the two big questions we would all like answers to.

Examples of this bat being authenticated go back to 2002/2003. IMO, those authentications are forgivable and can be written off as mistakes, as there was a lack of information to draw from.

But as the information came out in 2005/2006/2007, it was readily available, including on Albert's own website.

Again, just my opinion, but any authentication of these bats after 2007 stating they were used by Pujols is inexcusable.

[Soonerfan65]

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If Pujols is not using these bats then who is? Again how come the guys that do this for a living are not aware that these bats are not used by Albert? Taube told me he had never heard about the flag story before

[beachpetrol]

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Never jump the gun on Albert bat, rule number one.

Ain't that the truth. Ask the Angels LOL.

[spartanservitto]

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Never jump the gun on Albert bat, rule number one.

[Soonerfan65]

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So that's 3 different bats and the one I got would make 4;how many of these Dominican Flag bats are out there? If it's true that Pujols never used these then how come so many authenticators are unaware of this? Shouldn't they be doing more research? This is turning into a nightmare