The Kansas City Royals game used thread

[jsage]

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Michael,
Of course, the only other question I could think of was whether you know anyone who is knowledgeable about Kansas City jerseys who'd be willing and able to have me send the jersey to them for assessment if/when I acquire it? I'd love to send it and pay return shipping and get someone's in-person opinion on the article.

Thanks again! For everything!

Larry

Larry -
Why don't you just send it to MEARS for an LOA?
Jerry Sage

[VanPoppelFan]

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Michael,

Shoot, one more question:

As I was looking for photos of another 1991 jersey for stitching comparison purposes, I found the Gary Thurman on page eight. I relied that it still has its name sewed on. Any idea why a Thurman, without special modifications (based on the tagging), would NOT be recycled, but a Gibson (with an extra inch or whatever) would be?

Thanks again!

[VanPoppelFan]

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Michael,

Thank you for the disclaimer at the end, but no sweat; I'm just looking to gather as much information about this as I possibly can. To that end, you have been RIDICULOUSLY helpful. Thank you so, so much; all of the information, the opinion, all of it has been greatly appreciated.

Of course, the only other question I could think of was whether you know anyone who is knowledgeable about Kansas City jerseys who'd be willing and able to have me send the jersey to them for assessment if/when I acquire it? I'd love to send it and pay return shipping and get someone's in-person opinion on the article.

Thanks again! For everything!

Larry

1.) I don't know exactly how crisp it is in person. Attached is a 1991 gamer that I have laundered many times because I turned it into a George Brett jersey to wear. The set tag doesn't look that used (definitely not crisp).

2.) The number positioning is not necessarily a consistent thing. I have used number placement on photos to help guide me before but during the same season for the same player there can be alot of variance. See difference in "5" placement for George Brett below

3.) yes the Gubicza jersey that I posted in my last response had his name removed but no nameplate, no other signs of another name.

4.) I would say it was common to the era for the Royals (not an expert, just my observation)

last note, I don't authenticate jerseys for a living, not what I do. My OPINION is this is a jersey from the team that was issued to Gibson and his name was removed after the season. The jersey does seem to show some wash wear which may be attributed to him but I can't verify that and I have never held the jersey in my hands

[MichaelofSF]

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Michael,

A couple of follow-up questions:

1. The clean, crisp-looking Set tag doesn't concern you at all, then?
2. The positioning of the "30" relative to other things - was this something that varied from jersey to jersey? I would've thought it would be pretty absolute, but maybe not?
3. The lack of nameplate stitch marks - have you seen before where a jersey had a name removed to be recycled and then apparently wasn't?
4. Have you seen other 1991 jerseys recycled? Or is it just consistent with the period in general?

Thanks!

1.) I don't know exactly how crisp it is in person. Attached is a 1991 gamer that I have laundered many times because I turned it into a George Brett jersey to wear. The set tag doesn't look that used (definitely not crisp).

2.) The number positioning is not necessarily a consistent thing. I have used number placement on photos to help guide me before but during the same season for the same player there can be alot of variance. See difference in "5" placement for George Brett below

3.) yes the Gubicza jersey that I posted in my last response had his name removed but no nameplate, no other signs of another name.

4.) I would say it was common to the era for the Royals (not an expert, just my observation)

last note, I don't authenticate jerseys for a living, not what I do. My OPINION is this is a jersey from the team that was issued to Gibson and his name was removed after the season. The jersey does seem to show some wash wear which may be attributed to him but I can't verify that and I have never held the jersey in my hands

[MUSEOVEN]

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Salvador Perez Game Used Jersey.-
Salvador Perez Game Used Jersey In Venezuela.-

[VanPoppelFan]

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Shoot, one more question:

If you had to guess, would you think this jersey was legit?

Michael,

A couple of follow-up questions:

1. The clean, crisp-looking Set tag doesn't concern you at all, then?
2. The positioning of the "30" relative to other things - was this something that varied from jersey to jersey? I would've thought it would be pretty absolute, but maybe not?
3. The lack of nameplate stitch marks - have you seen before where a jersey had a name removed to be recycled and then apparently wasn't?
4. Have you seen other 1991 jerseys recycled? Or is it just consistent with the period in general?

Thanks!

[VanPoppelFan]

Re: The Kansas City Royals game used thread

Michael,

A couple of follow-up questions:

1. The clean, crisp-looking Set tag doesn't concern you at all, then?
2. The positioning of the "30" relative to other things - was this something that varied from jersey to jersey? I would've thought it would be pretty absolute, but maybe not?
3. The lack of nameplate stitch marks - have you seen before where a jersey had a name removed to be recycled and then apparently wasn't?
4. Have you seen other 1991 jerseys recycled? Or is it just consistent with the period in general?

Thanks!

I'm posting this in the Royals thread so the information can be accessed with more ease.

I'll preface this by saying I have no knowledge of Kirk Gibson jerseys and styles so I don't know if sizing, cut etc are normal for him.

In 1991 Gibson appeared in 132 games, at least 30 of which were as the DH according to baseball reference.

The jersey itself looks to be from the team, the chest velcro patch appears to be present. I have a 1991 Royals game used jersey and the Rawlings size patch appears to be in the same place on the outside. There appears to be some wash wear as evidenced by the threads on the lettering loosening a little. In my experience, the "set" tags don't tend to show the same amount of wash wear as the other tags like the Rawlings larger size tags do.

I have seen many Royals jerseys that have had the name on backs removed from that era. As far as I know, when they were recycled sewn on nameplates could be sewn over. If there is no evidence of a nameplate removed, then perhaps the lettering was taken off and then never reused/issued.

Fellow Royals collector Leigh B. has a really cool Johnny Damon/Bret Saberhagen recycled jersey. . My Jeff Montgomery jersey was similarly recycled where the name was removed and a nameplate was placed over (I have since had it restored). I have a 1990 Guibcza that had the name removed but not recycled as well.

The Gibson jersey for auction and the jersey Gibson is wearing in the photo are not the same. The jersey in the auction the "3" is further away from the stitching seam than in the photo. The "30" is always higher up on the jersey in question (closer to "Royals"). This does not mean that the jersey isn't good, just means it's not the one in the pic.

[MichaelofSF]

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Hey KC fans, just wondering if any of you could help me out? I just posted a thread here and could really use the input of any of you knowledgeable KC collectors. Thanks!

I'm posting this in the Royals thread so the information can be accessed with more ease.

I'll preface this by saying I have no knowledge of Kirk Gibson jerseys and styles so I don't know if sizing, cut etc are normal for him.

In 1991 Gibson appeared in 132 games, at least 30 of which were as the DH according to baseball reference.

The jersey itself looks to be from the team, the chest velcro patch appears to be present. I have a 1991 Royals game used jersey and the Rawlings size patch appears to be in the same place on the outside. There appears to be some wash wear as evidenced by the threads on the lettering loosening a little. In my experience, the "set" tags don't tend to show the same amount of wash wear as the other tags like the Rawlings larger size tags do.

I have seen many Royals jerseys that have had the name on backs removed from that era. As far as I know, when they were recycled sewn on nameplates could be sewn over. If there is no evidence of a nameplate removed, then perhaps the lettering was taken off and then never reused/issued.

Fellow Royals collector Leigh B. has a really cool Johnny Damon/Bret Saberhagen recycled jersey. . My Jeff Montgomery jersey was similarly recycled where the name was removed and a nameplate was placed over (I have since had it restored). I have a 1990 Guibcza that had the name removed but not recycled as well.

The Gibson jersey for auction and the jersey Gibson is wearing in the photo are not the same. The jersey in the auction the "3" is further away from the stitching seam than in the photo. The "30" is always higher up on the jersey in question (closer to "Royals"). This does not mean that the jersey isn't good, just means it's not the one in the pic.

[James457]

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I'm thinking of buying the World Series Base from eBay. Is it the same kind of bases they use on the field?

[xmartyx]

The Kansas City Royals game used thread

Hey KC fans, just wondering if any of you could help me out? I just posted a thread here and could really use the input of any of you knowledgeable KC collectors. Thanks!

[sportsnbikes]

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I picked up this World Series base the other day. Although it's not game used, at 225 bucks, it is much cheaper than what the game used bases were being sold for at the WS for $3500.

The way I see it, this is Alpha-Omega of the season this year for the Royals!

[sportsnbikes]

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Where do you get such clear images?????? I have a Hosmer bat I'm so close to matching but just can't get a clear enough image.

[MichaelofSF]

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A pair of
Eric Hosmer 2011 (rookie) game used cracked bats
Hosmer made his debut on 5/6/2011. On Mother's Day a few days later Hosmer used his pink "Momma Hos" bat to knock in his first RBI, I lost out on a bidding war for that one. Here are two of Hosmer's very early MLB bats. One was ordered on 5/9/2011 and the other on 5/19/2011. These are Marucci EH3 model bats. Both have "35" on the knob. Hosmer's first few bats had "EH" on the knob (maybe because he was in the minors and didn't know which ML # he would be assigned?). The one made on 5/9 is MLB authenticated and I was actually able to photomatch the exact swing where the bat broke against Jeremy Guthrie on 5/26/2011. Big thanks to Keith Allison for taking such great photos and posting them on flickr. The tar pattern matches up exactly. The tar on this bat is a lighter color than what is normally seen on Hosmer rookie bats.

The other bat made on 5/19/2011 is autographed. After the 2011 season Hosmer brought some bats back to Florida and I saw a few of these for sale then, this is one of them. This one has the darker mota stick/tar that Hosmer used for most of his rookie season.

Alot of Hosmer bats have a taped knob and more recently taped handles.

[MichaelofSF]

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A few Hosmer rookie items coming up....

Eric Hosmer 2011 game used autographed batting helmet (MLB authenticated)
I just picked up this rookie batting helmet. The Hos was called up in May of 2011 as a highly touted prospect and delivered with a promising rookie year. Here is a game used batting helmet from his rookie year. The autograph is MLB authenticated from spring training of 2013. Hosmer used this style of helmet only in the 2011 season. After researching the helmet it matches with pictures of Hosmer from later on in the season.

The helmet is a size 7 3/8. There is tar on the brim of the helmet and scratches/scuffing throughout. There is a glob of tar above the left ear that is also visible in pictures. There are also some light blue streaks and dots on the helmet that can be seen in various pictures in the 2nd half

[ndevlin]

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Really cool items Nate, do the Belinda and Appier have evidence of number removal on the front? The tagging looks good but in 94 on the blue alternates there were numbers on the fronts of the jerseys. Either way great looking jerseys, loved those blue alternates and the 94 patch on the sleeve too!

Thanks Michael, I like the blue alts as well. I had the Belinda out so I double checked but couldnt seem to see an outline of the number on the front. I'm guessing I just can't see it. Surely it was there.