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  • Nnunnari
    Banned
    • Sep 2006
    • 875

    #31
    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    Pete Rose was a scumbag who compromised the game of baseball and broke the cardinal rule of gambling on the sport. He knew what he was doing was wrong and illegal. The steroid guys were just keeping up with everybody else and doing something that was not even tested for or considered illegal by MLB, some would argue that MLB even promoted the use.
    Rose should not be let in before the steroid guys.

    Pudge is 100% a steroid guy and 100% should be in the Hall. An incredible catcher playing in that Arlington heat every year.

    The best of the best go into the Hall of Fame. The steroid guys were the best of the steroid guys. It all sorts itself out. Juan Gonzalez, Albert Belle, Luis Gonzalez, Brady Anderson and on and on, had great years but did not sustain the greatness. Guys like Sheffield, mentally and physically kept at it long enough to become Hall of Famers.

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    • jbsportstuff
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 362

      #32
      Re: Baseball HOF 2014

      If you are looking for the best of the best, you cannot overlook Pete Rose.

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      • xpress34
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2648

        #33
        Re: Baseball HOF 2014

        Originally posted by godwulf
        I don't know how long it's been since they voted in three players in a year, but I know they haven't voted in four players since the '50s.

        I think Maddux is a lock, and one other - either Glavine, Biggio or Thomas. My preference would be for Biggio. The other two are deserving, but all things considered, I don't believe that more than two will be selected at a time. Maybe they should - I just don't think they will.

        If I were the Commissioner of Baseball, my first official act would be to reverse the call that kept Armando Galarraga from his Perfecto. My second would be to clear the way for Pete Rose to do or be anything in Baseball he wanted. My third would be to inform the HOF that the day Barry Bonds is installed there, their ties to MLB would be irrevocably dissolved.
        In 1999 - you had Ryan, Brett and Cepeda... not sure if three have gone in together since then...

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        • gorilla777
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1508

          #34
          Re: Baseball HOF 2014

          Originally posted by xpress34
          In 1999 - you had Ryan, Brett and Cepeda... not sure if three have gone in together since then...
          Yes, and it seems ridiculous to me. Look at football, inducting 10 at a time, if they are deserving. I don't get the restrictions they have, max votes, etc. It ultimately will cost deserving guys that get overlooked unfairly....

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          • EricTheRed44
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 314

            #35
            Re: Baseball HOF 2014

            Originally posted by Nnunnari
            Pete Rose was a scumbag who compromised the game of baseball and broke the cardinal rule of gambling on the sport. He knew what he was doing was wrong and illegal. The steroid guys were just keeping up with everybody else and doing something that was not even tested for or considered illegal by MLB, some would argue that MLB even promoted the use.
            Rose should not be let in before the steroid guys.

            Pudge is 100% a steroid guy and 100% should be in the Hall. An incredible catcher playing in that Arlington heat every year.

            The best of the best go into the Hall of Fame. The steroid guys were the best of the steroid guys. It all sorts itself out. Juan Gonzalez, Albert Belle, Luis Gonzalez, Brady Anderson and on and on, had great years but did not sustain the greatness. Guys like Sheffield, mentally and physically kept at it long enough to become Hall of Famers.

            It's a joke if you have a ton of roiders in the game and not the Hit King. Guys like Bonds tarnished the game for the all-time greats. If you have a kid and he looks in a sports almanac he's going to think Bonds, Sosa and McGwire were better than players like Ruth, Mantle and Mays. Its idiotic to say let the roiders in and you keep Rose out. Petes actions didn't change the outcome of any games while the history of the game was changed by men who cheated it by using roids.

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            • KGoldin
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 1672

              #36
              Re: Baseball HOF 2014

              as I said....Maddux, Glavine and Thomas....

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              • EricTheRed44
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 314

                #37
                Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                I think Biggio has a better shot than Thomas this year, the others I agree with though.

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                • KGoldin
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1672

                  #38
                  Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                  its been announced
                  Biggio 74.8% did NOT get in

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                  • EricTheRed44
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 314

                    #39
                    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                    Damn. So he missed it by .2?

                    Ok, I can handle being wrong by .2 I guess. I thought Frank might be next year, glad he got in though.

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                    • mdb240
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 16

                      #40
                      Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                      Has anyone ever paid the membership fee to the Hall of Fame to get seated in the reserved section for the induction. The low price is $500 but I am seriously considering it. How does it work, first come first served except for the family seating and such? How early can you show up to sit In the reserved section so you can get close?

                      Thanks!

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                      • 3arod13
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 3093

                        #41
                        Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                        NEW YORK, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Pitchers Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine and slugger Frank Thomas were elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in results announced on Wednesday by the Baseball Writers' Association of America.
                        Players needed to be on 75 percent of the 571 ballots cast for election to the Cooperstown shrine.
                        Regards, Tony

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                        ~I'm sorry, I can't hear you....my World Series Ring is making too much NOISE! - Alex Rodriguez~

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                        • sox83cubs84
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 8902

                          #42
                          Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                          Congrats to all three me, all worthy enshrinees. My only regrets are Jack Morris not getting in and Craig Biggio waiting another year. I also would have liked to see Jeff Bagwell fare better.

                          Dave Miedema

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                          • Roady
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 1430

                            #43
                            Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                            Glad to see Maddux and Glavine going in together. Bobby Cox must be so proud to be going in with them.

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                            • 3arod13
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 3093

                              #44
                              Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                              Was alway a fan of Frank Thomas! Glad to see him get it!
                              Regards, Tony

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                              ~I'm sorry, I can't hear you....my World Series Ring is making too much NOISE! - Alex Rodriguez~

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                              • coxfan
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 715

                                #45
                                Re: Baseball HOF 2014

                                A great group! Torre had a Braves' connection. He was one of the first Atlanta Braves. I recall that in 1967 Bob Uecker, who was backup catcher behind Torre, said he was Phil Niekro's special catcher because he was more expendable than Torre. (I think Uecker's the one who said that the way to catch a Niekro knuckler was to wait until it stopped rolling and pick it up; or maybe that was said by another knuckler catcher).

                                Torre also managed the Braves to their second-ever division title in 1982, when the Braves set the MLB record with 13 straight wins to start a season. Torre also gained a division title with the Dodgers after the Yankees gave him a vote of little confidence. My wife got his autograph on the same ball with Lasorda in spring training.

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