Baseball HOF 2014

[cjclong]

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Mantle got an injection for an injury from a quack doctor at the end of the 61 season but it wasn't steroids. Those didn't take off in baseball until much later. Back then no one in baseball lifted weights. It was thought they would make you muscle bound and lose your flexibility. In fact very few football players lifted back then either.

[sportsnbikes]

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Pete Rose was a scumbag who compromised the game of baseball and broke the cardinal rule of gambling on the sport. He knew what he was doing was wrong and illegal. The steroid guys were just keeping up with everybody else and doing something that was not even tested for or considered illegal by MLB, some would argue that MLB even promoted the use.
Rose should not be let in before the steroid guys.

Pudge is 100% a steroid guy and 100% should be in the Hall. An incredible catcher playing in that Arlington heat every year.

The best of the best go into the Hall of Fame. The steroid guys were the best of the steroid guys. It all sorts itself out. Juan Gonzalez, Albert Belle, Luis Gonzalez, Brady Anderson and on and on, had great years but did not sustain the greatness. Guys like Sheffield, mentally and physically kept at it long enough to become Hall of Famers.

True he did bet on the sport...as a manager. His managerial numbers aren't the stats that get him into the hall. He should be in for what he did as a player.

[sportsnbikes]

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Mantle got an injection for an injury from a quack doctor at the end of the 61 season but it wasn't steroids. Those didn't take off in baseball until much later. Back then no one in baseball lifted weights. It was thought they would make you muscle bound and lose your flexibility. In fact very few football players lifted back then either.

Not according to Tom House. According to his admission, steroids were in the game back then. Maybe not 61 but the late 60's they were. Click the link I posted on this thread.

[sportsnbikes]

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Pete Rose was a scumbag who compromised the game of baseball and broke the cardinal rule of gambling on the sport. He knew what he was doing was wrong and illegal. The steroid guys were just keeping up with everybody else and doing something that was not even tested for or considered illegal by MLB, some would argue that MLB even promoted the use.
Rose should not be let in before the steroid guys.

Pudge is 100% a steroid guy and 100% should be in the Hall. An incredible catcher playing in that Arlington heat every year.

The best of the best go into the Hall of Fame. The steroid guys were the best of the steroid guys. It all sorts itself out. Juan Gonzalez, Albert Belle, Luis Gonzalez, Brady Anderson and on and on, had great years but did not sustain the greatness. Guys like Sheffield, mentally and physically kept at it long enough to become Hall of Famers.

And how can you say all the steroids didn't compromise the game of baseball? Look at all this drama surrounding the voting process. If the steroids weren't involved, this discussion isn't even taking place! Steroids compromised the game in a very big way.

[coophallmonitor]

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I think this is a great class going in though I wish Biggio could have gotten those last two votes to go in this year. Seeing Palmeiro drop off completely with McGwire and Sosa staying on the ballot surprised me a bit. Hope to see Mussinas votes increase a lot in the coming years...

[Flamechicken]

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Good class of Braves! Still hoping for the Crimedog!

Mike