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  • Roady
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1430

    #16
    Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

    Originally posted by johnsontravis@ymail.com
    Good Luck I don't think MLB would accept photo matches....or else I have a couple I would liked switched.

    There may be a small chance they change it, but idk...tough to say with their strict program.
    But the pic is a clear photo match. Correct?

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    • allstarsplus
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 3707

      #17
      Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

      I see pics of San Diego and San Fran. Where are the pics of NYY and San Fran in the Mariano Rivera game? I thought that was the purpose of this and keep in mind that its possible he wore 2 helmets in the same game.

      Nothing here is definitive that the authenticator made a mistake. Calling something Game Issued and proving it was Game Used happens all the time and is not a mistake as its the burden of proof wasn't met and they label it game issued. Again, that is not a mistake. You just never want to find the opposite where it says Game Used and it was never used.
      Regards,
      Andrew Lang
      AllstarsPlus@aol.com
      202-716-8500

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      • MercyMe78
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 107

        #18
        Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

        Originally posted by allstarsplus
        I see pics of San Diego and San Fran. Where are the pics of NYY and San Fran in the Mariano Rivera game? I thought that was the purpose of this and keep in mind that its possible he wore 2 helmets in the same game.

        Nothing here is definitive that the authenticator made a mistake. Calling something Game Issued and proving it was Game Used happens all the time and is not a mistake as its the burden of proof wasn't met and they label it game issued. Again, that is not a mistake. You just never want to find the opposite where it says Game Used and it was never used.
        The thing is, the helmet was never authenticated during the Yankee game and only during the last home stand and thats why I never showed pictures from the NY game. All four at bats Perez had during the game against the Padres, he was using the the same photo matched helmet. So not sure how they could authenticate another helmet as game used if he never had an at bat with it...

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        • allstarsplus
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 3707

          #19
          Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

          Originally posted by MercyMe78
          The thing is, the helmet was never authenticated during the Yankee game and only during the last home stand and thats why I never showed pictures from the NY game. All four at bats Perez had during the game against the Padres, he was using the the same photo matched helmet. So not sure how they could authenticate another helmet as game used if he never had an at bat with it...
          Your helmet looks good. We don't have the ability to see the other helmet to exclude it or to even say he didn't have 2 helmets he used.

          I say be happy with what you have. It would be the owner of the other helmet that might have something to be concerned about.
          Regards,
          Andrew Lang
          AllstarsPlus@aol.com
          202-716-8500

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          • onlyalbert
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 918

            #20
            Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

            Originally posted by johnsontravis@ymail.com
            Good Luck I don't think MLB would accept photo matches....or else I have a couple I would liked switched.

            There may be a small chance they change it, but idk...tough to say with their strict program.
            MLB will NOT change an authentication based on a photomatch due to the rules of their chain of command. If an authenticator did not witness it it is automatically "issued".

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            • jbean023
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 599

              #21
              Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

              Originally posted by carbonrosa
              John, how can you say this picture proves nothing when it is a complete match? If this was my helmet, I would send these pictures to both The Giants and MLB and have them authenticate it correctly.
              I've had a handful of hit baseballs changed, had to go through the team and they contacted the authenticator.

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              • carbonrosa
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 200

                #22
                Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

                Well how about this, I'm bidding on a "Game-Used Baseball - Pedroia 2 RBI 1B off Cook" Bos @ OAK at the MLB auction site and noticed the date they have is 7/13/13 but on this day Pedroia went 0 for 5. He faced Cook and singled at the top of the 8th ining on 7/12/13. I just contact MLB and explained that I'm biding on this ball but the date is wrong. Hopefully they will get back to me before I retract my bid.
                -Devin

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                • jbean023
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 599

                  #23
                  Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

                  Originally posted by carbonrosa
                  Well how about this, I'm bidding on a "Game-Used Baseball - Pedroia 2 RBI 1B off Cook" Bos @ OAK at the MLB auction site and noticed the date they have is 7/13/13 but on this day Pedroia went 0 for 5. He faced Cook and singled at the top of the 8th ining on 7/12/13. I just contact MLB and explained that I'm biding on this ball but the date is wrong. Hopefully they will get back to me before I retract my bid.
                  -Devin
                  I haven't ran into a date issue yet, you think with technology the programmer or administrator for the mlb authentication site would create a program that when the authenticators input the holograms they shouldn't be able to change the date since it's "supposedly" a visual authentication. The date should already be input during that session for that date.

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                  • carbonrosa
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 200

                    #24
                    Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

                    Well, the people at MLB Auctions got back to me right away and informed me that they have changed the date in the auction to 7/12/13. It's good to know they jumped on it right away. A plus in my book. There will always be human error with these things but MLB DEFINITELY has the strongest system in place.
                    -Devin

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                    • allstarsplus
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3707

                      #25
                      Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

                      Originally posted by carbonrosa
                      Well, the people at MLB Auctions got back to me right away and informed me that they have changed the date in the auction to 7/12/13. It's good to know they jumped on it right away. A plus in my book. There will always be human error with these things but MLB DEFINITELY has the strongest system in place.
                      -Devin
                      That's the big difference to always understand that honest mistakes happen and correcting them quickly is a key. They have also been good about making changes to descriptions or even adding to descriptions to help collectors.
                      Regards,
                      Andrew Lang
                      AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                      202-716-8500

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                      • coxfan
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 715

                        #26
                        Re: MLB Authentication- Authenticated Wrong Item

                        I'm a fan of MLB authentication, and I've found the authentication by the Rangers' authenticator to be very accurate regarding balls. But there's always room for improvement. A simple proofreading by somebody of the MLB.com play-by-play, posted after every game on the website, would take only a few minutes; and would eliminate the majority of clerical errors up front. I've found those clerical errors usually involve dates or inning numbers, and the PBP proofread would catch those quickly.

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