What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

LOL... you wanted opinions so your getting them. as for the comment on simulating use with dirt and stains, I challenge anyone to replicate a hitmark to the exact pattern and spot on a jersey as well as grass or blood stains! id like to see it. Id like to add after seeing pics up close of this hat I can honestly say that the extreme use this piece displays for having only been worn for one series as you stated does seem to be inconsistent from a 3 game stretch playing only first base and batting 4 times a game. That hat looks like its seen tons of action and stretched out. Doesn't add up to me but that's just my opinion. they players wear a diff cap in BP correct?

Your concerns are valid but so are my facts. We can agree to disagree with respect. It's a great item with provenance, Coa, Loa and handled by the player that wore it.. Because I haven't found an exact photo match does not in my mind make this hat not authentic. The hat was worn in the summer and per the clubhouse attendant, the hat was left on the floor of the dugout after the last game. I like the story and the proof.

[net0@thehalf]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

LOL... you wanted opinions so your getting them. as for the comment on simulating use with dirt and stains, I challenge anyone to replicate a hitmark to the exact pattern and spot on a jersey as well as grass or blood stains! id like to see it. Id like to add after seeing pics up close of this hat I can honestly say that the extreme use this piece displays for having only been worn for one series as you stated does seem to be inconsistent from a 3 game stretch playing only first base and batting 4 times a game. That hat looks like its seen tons of action and stretched out. Doesn't add up to me but that's just my opinion. they players wear a diff cap in BP correct?

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

........some on here have put you through.........

I agree...

[Roady]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

After everything some on here put have you through ,including insults, they will buy some overpriced item with nothing more than a piece of paper from someone saying it is authentic.

........some on here have put you through.........

[Roady]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Yep. This hang up on photo matching is interesting. I understand some items can be photo matched but there are so many that can't be. But with proper provenance and data, many items can be proven valid.

After everything some on here put have you through ,including insults, they will buy some overpriced item with nothing more than a piece of paper from someone saying it is authentic.

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

I hope this one shows the tags. A member in the forum posted the history of this company's tagging and this cap was used 1989-1990 then they changed their tagging

I'm pretty sure the tagging period is generally accepted as 1989-1993, but the tags are right for that era. Cap looks good to me. I'd probably offer $350 or so. Before anyone comments that I'd pay more for a Thomas rookie bat, hats aren't bats. I couldn't pull the trigger on an early 80s GU hat from a HOFer... and that was $100.

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Yep. This hang up on photo matching is interesting. I understand some items can be photo matched but there are so many that can't be. But with proper provenance and data, many items can be proven valid.

Even photo matching isn't 100%. If someone took the time, they could produce a fake from a photo too, by adding dirt stains and wear. Even if you received it directly from the player, it's still your word...

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

It would and it amazes me what some on here pay for items with a single letter from a single man.
Yet they demand more proof from you.

Yep. This hang up on photo matching is interesting. I understand some items can be photo matched but there are so many that can't be. But with proper provenance and data, many items can be proven valid.

[Roady]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Being I have the Coa and LOA from the uniform expert, the PSA on the auto and Frank confirming the old auto on video..I think it might do very well if we put it in an auction too.

It would and it amazes me what some on here pay for items with a single letter from a single man.
Yet they demand more proof from you.

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

If this hat was attached to one of the auction houses many on here like to overpay items at and had a letter from someone then they would be all over it.

Being I have the Coa and LOA from the uniform expert, the PSA on the auto and Frank confirming the old auto on video..I think it might do very well if we put it in an auction too.

[Roady]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

If this hat was attached to one of the auction houses many on here like to overpay items at and had a letter from someone then they would be all over it.

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

I hope this one shows the tags. A member in the forum posted the history of this company's tagging and this cap was used 1989-1990 then they changed their tagging

Here's another photo

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Could you show images of the tagging and the whole cap? It'd be interesting to see. As for value, I don't know what to say. I think if it were photo-matched (and, yes, I realize that'd be difficult, but since you know the exact dates it could have been used, not impossible) that would be one thing, but with what you have currently for documentation, your market would be limited.

The hat might be "worth" a couple grand, but it would likely only get $500 or less in an auction based environment. The $500 means the amount you'd get, not necessarily the hammer price of the house.

I hope this one shows the tags. A member in the forum posted the history of this company's tagging and this cap was used 1989-1990 then they changed their tagging

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

The hat manufacturer changed their tagging in 1991

Could you show images of the tagging and the whole cap? It'd be interesting to see. As for value, I don't know what to say. I think if it were photo-matched (and, yes, I realize that'd be difficult, but since you know the exact dates it could have been used, not impossible) that would be one thing, but with what you have currently for documentation, your market would be limited.

The hat might be "worth" a couple grand, but it would likely only get $500 or less in an auction based environment. The $500 means the amount you'd get, not necessarily the hammer price of the house.

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

I understand doubt... But I have done everything I can to try to confirm the authenticity. I feel it's authentic... If a member doesn't think it's authentic then you have your opinion too. Go Sox