What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

This particular hat was used in the final home series in 1990. During that year the Sox wore red, white and blue uniforms. They introduced their new uniforms ( the current black and whites) to the fans before the 1991 season so the fans could check them out. So this is Franks first Black white sox cap. I being a huge Frank fan and life long White Sox fan I really love this hat. I don't think I would ever sell it but, I could understand if a collector would make an offer like that how it would be difficult not to sell.

[spartanservitto]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Just a comment - I wasn't trying to downplay the hat - I think it's fantastic , that was just my opinion and how I formulated it.

-Tony

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

No problem Tony... I like reading all the info and opinions. . Thanks. go Sox.

[Roady]

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And you know I have been one of your biggest supporters since this whole thing began so my value of the hat is just that, mine. I am a bit on the cheap side so if I say I would give $500 for something others will most likely give more.

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

And you know I have been one of your biggest supporters since this whole thing began so my value of the hat is just that, mine. I am a bit on the cheap side so if I say I would give $500 for something others will most likely give more.

You're the best Roady!!!!

[Chess2899]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Not to rain on your parade Bro but a good rule of thumb is whatever you paid from Ball Park Heroes is well over market value in my experience from buying from them.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but from what I have gathered from the never ending Thomas hat saga is that the only thing that was ever proven was that the original autograph was authentic.

Even though there is a good chance the hat was worn by Frank you don't have conclusive proof which is what you would need to get any type of high end or even real value from the hat from any intelligent Sox's or Thomas collector. No one but a fool is spending big bucks on something that can't be proven and I don't know of many big time Sox's collectors who would.

You need a photo match not a style match to prove your point here that LOA doesn't mean much too me its not proof and I would like to know whats its based on certainly not proof. Do you really think that Big Frank can remember a hat that HE MIGHT HAVE worn once 24 years ago???? Seriously?

I think its been shown on here many times that players are the worst at authenticating their items that being said even if it is true all you have is a nice story it still can't be proven to this point.

It doesn't matter what you think you know it comes down to it only really matters what you can prove. I would spend more time trying to prove what the hat is thru a photo match or trying to match the #35 written on the hat and less time worrying what the hat might be worth.

My hope is that you are able to find the proof to prove conclusively that Thomas did in fact wear the hat his rookie season cause then you might actually have something here.

This hobby is a treasure hunt & I would suggest that you start hunting and doing your own leg work as your case to this point is weak/inconclusive at best IMO on proving that Thomas wore the hat.

I think the video, plus Frank's GU 1990 documentation and signature is good enough for proof. Photo matches were very difficult to obtain in 1990.

[stasman]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Your in the minority Palehose for life. This hat has 3 loa's/coa's including a physical examination by a expert, matching via tagging from the manufactures own history, provenance from a clubhouse attendant who recovered it, PSA authentication on the new autograph and Frank himself on video saying the original auto is his and this hat was his in 1990. This hat impressed him enough to say to me " call the hall and see if it can be out in my display"
Come on Palehose...how much more do you need. I have down the legwork. What item do you have with this much provenance???

[Roady]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

Your in the minority Palehose for life. This hat has 3 loa's/coa's including a physical examination by a expert, matching via tagging from the manufactures own history, provenance from a clubhouse attendant who recovered it, PSA authentication on the new autograph and Frank himself on video saying the original auto is his and this hat was his in 1990. This hat impressed him enough to say to me " call the hall and see if it can be out in my display"
Come on Palehose...how much more do you need. I have down the legwork. What item do you have with this much provenance???

Look at you! Glad to see you standing up for yourself a little stronger.

[stasman]

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I'm usually pretty calm, but don't be ignorant. If PaleHose for life would have read the entire original post.. He would have seen all the time and " legwork" I did. If he doesn't believe it to be real and authentic that's fine.. Just don't be insulting.

[Roady]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

I'm usually pretty calm, but don't be ignorant. If PaleHose for life would have read the entire original post.. He would have seen all the time and " legwork" I did. If he doesn't believe it to be real and authentic that's fine.. Just don't be insulting.

I am sure he read it all.

[otismalibu]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

If he doesn't believe it to be real and authentic that's fine.. Just don't be insulting.

There was nothing insulting about the PaleHose post, IMO. Just an honest assessment.

And FWIW, my Frank Thomas Rookie Cap catalog arrived today!

[johnsontravis@ymail.com]

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I don't see why what he has is not enough. How many items are auctioned with the word of some guy who worked in the clubhouse? No one has a problem with that.

[karamaxjoe]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

There was nothing insulting about the PaleHose post, IMO. Just an honest assessment.

And FWIW, my Frank Thomas Rookie Cap catalog arrived today!

What....when did this happen?.........I thought I was the only one with the Frank Thomas Rookie Cap catalog!

Me thinks the great cap caper has run its course.

[yanks12025]

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What....when did this happen?.........I thought I was the only one with the Frank Thomas Rookie Cap catalog!

Me thinks the great cap caper has run its course.

I think we need another 5 threads and 400+ posts about this hat till we get to the end.

[karamaxjoe]

Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

I'm ignorant? I spent thousands with the White Sox since 1999 both online and thru their garage sales and let me tell you they mix everything together issued & used & throw it all out there as game used its buyer beware like everything else in this hobby

Exactly why I stopped going to the garage sales years ago and only deal with vintage now. The Sox are out to make a buck for their charities and I appreciate that. Unfortunately provenance is something they care little about.