What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

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  • stasman
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 450

    #61
    Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

    Originally posted by Roady
    It would and it amazes me what some on here pay for items with a single letter from a single man.
    Yet they demand more proof from you.
    Yep. This hang up on photo matching is interesting. I understand some items can be photo matched but there are so many that can't be. But with proper provenance and data, many items can be proven valid.

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    • stasman
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 450

      #62
      Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

      Originally posted by stasman
      Yep. This hang up on photo matching is interesting. I understand some items can be photo matched but there are so many that can't be. But with proper provenance and data, many items can be proven valid.
      Even photo matching isn't 100%. If someone took the time, they could produce a fake from a photo too, by adding dirt stains and wear. Even if you received it directly from the player, it's still your word...

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      • danesei@yahoo.com
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 1018

        #63
        Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

        Originally posted by stasman
        I hope this one shows the tags. A member in the forum posted the history of this company's tagging and this cap was used 1989-1990 then they changed their tagging
        I'm pretty sure the tagging period is generally accepted as 1989-1993, but the tags are right for that era. Cap looks good to me. I'd probably offer $350 or so. Before anyone comments that I'd pay more for a Thomas rookie bat, hats aren't bats. I couldn't pull the trigger on an early 80s GU hat from a HOFer... and that was $100.

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        • Roady
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 1430

          #64
          Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

          Originally posted by stasman
          Yep. This hang up on photo matching is interesting. I understand some items can be photo matched but there are so many that can't be. But with proper provenance and data, many items can be proven valid.
          After everything some on here put have you through ,including insults, they will buy some overpriced item with nothing more than a piece of paper from someone saying it is authentic.

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          • Roady
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 1430

            #65
            Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

            Originally posted by Roady
            After everything some on here put have you through ,including insults, they will buy some overpriced item with nothing more than a piece of paper from someone saying it is authentic.
            ........some on here have put you through.........

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            • stasman
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 450

              #66
              Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

              Originally posted by Roady
              ........some on here have put you through.........
              I agree...

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              • net0@thehalf
                Banned
                • Aug 2013
                • 64

                #67
                Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                LOL... you wanted opinions so your getting them. as for the comment on simulating use with dirt and stains, I challenge anyone to replicate a hitmark to the exact pattern and spot on a jersey as well as grass or blood stains! id like to see it. Id like to add after seeing pics up close of this hat I can honestly say that the extreme use this piece displays for having only been worn for one series as you stated does seem to be inconsistent from a 3 game stretch playing only first base and batting 4 times a game. That hat looks like its seen tons of action and stretched out. Doesn't add up to me but that's just my opinion. they players wear a diff cap in BP correct?

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                • stasman
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 450

                  #68
                  Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                  Originally posted by net0@thehalf
                  LOL... you wanted opinions so your getting them. as for the comment on simulating use with dirt and stains, I challenge anyone to replicate a hitmark to the exact pattern and spot on a jersey as well as grass or blood stains! id like to see it. Id like to add after seeing pics up close of this hat I can honestly say that the extreme use this piece displays for having only been worn for one series as you stated does seem to be inconsistent from a 3 game stretch playing only first base and batting 4 times a game. That hat looks like its seen tons of action and stretched out. Doesn't add up to me but that's just my opinion. they players wear a diff cap in BP correct?
                  Your concerns are valid but so are my facts. We can agree to disagree with respect. It's a great item with provenance, Coa, Loa and handled by the player that wore it.. Because I haven't found an exact photo match does not in my mind make this hat not authentic. The hat was worn in the summer and per the clubhouse attendant, the hat was left on the floor of the dugout after the last game. I like the story and the proof.

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                  • Dach0sen0ne
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 872

                    #69
                    Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                    Dun, dun....
                    Attached Files

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                    • Roady
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1430

                      #70
                      Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                      Originally posted by Palehose for Life
                      Who are You talking about & do You have any clue as to what you are saying?

                      If you are referring to me I don't put my faith in anyone or thing. I do my own leg work to prove an item good and that requires a photo match for me on anything of real value.
                      Then why are you so upset?

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                      • Roady
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1430

                        #71
                        Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                        Originally posted by Palehose for Life
                        ..... which is why there are so many haters in this business.
                        And speaking of haters.......

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                        • BU54CB
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 304

                          #72
                          Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                          Originally posted by net0@thehalf
                          LOL... you wanted opinions so your getting them. as for the comment on simulating use with dirt and stains, I challenge anyone to replicate a hitmark to the exact pattern and spot on a jersey as well as grass or blood stains! id like to see it. Id like to add after seeing pics up close of this hat I can honestly say that the extreme use this piece displays for having only been worn for one series as you stated does seem to be inconsistent from a 3 game stretch playing only first base and batting 4 times a game. That hat looks like its seen tons of action and stretched out. Doesn't add up to me but that's just my opinion. they players wear a diff cap in BP correct?
                          So you're an expert in wear and tear on game used items? You know how much a player sweats during a game? You know how much action that player saw during the game? I've seen some really worn and dirty baseball uniforms, hats, and equipment from just one games use.

                          Frank also has a big noggin, it wouldn't take long at all to stretch out a hat, did you take that into consideration? Probably not, but you're stuck on looking for the negatives and attacking someone for no reason.

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                          • BU54CB
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 304

                            #73
                            Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                            Originally posted by Roady
                            And speaking of haters.......
                            +1

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                            • Roady
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1430

                              #74
                              Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                              stasman,
                              Great hat! Great story! Great restraint on your part to keep your cool.
                              Don't let some get to you ever. Some are jealous, some are mean, and some are just pure snobs. As long as you stay who you are, you win.

                              I am not going to stir this pot anymore and give those who only want to degrade others and their items any more ammo. I hate bullies and bullies need to be put in their place. But that will happen one day with or without my input.

                              My list of those I will never do business with grows.

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                              • net0@thehalf
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 64

                                #75
                                Re: What's it worth? Frank Thomas rookie cap

                                Road dog what do you have in your collection? any items for sale? I'm looking for locker name plates if u have any. Buc lmfao, you aren't superman defender of the universe. you still haven't shown anything on your rack lately??? and yes I did consider big Frank's massive cranium but still 3 games of use isn't that extreme! I sweat a lot too and my hat wouldn't be that F'd up!!!! Its good to want something to be what you hope it is, since nobody wants to get screwed... I truly hope it is the real mccoy! I just think I good story is all it is.

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