Pujols hits HR #500

[nevrdiez34]

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As far as the guy commenting on Braun I am not going to argue when the sources you speak of aren't credible at all. There never was any proof period other than 2011. Only thing connecting him outside of that was some guy trying to sue him...and that man is just trying to take advantage of the situation and ruin his reputation more.

This thread is already of topic as it is.

This thread has been off topic nearly from the start. If you want to believe Braun in spite of the facts and his admission of lying, that's up to you. Believe what you want to believe, but his refusal to comment on any of his PED use should tell you something. He's a talented player no doubt, but to think he lied about using to everyone including family and friends, threw a specimen collector under the bus but is telling the truth about only using to recover from a hamstring injury that never even sent him to the disabled list in 2011 is beyond naïve.

[Roady]

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See, you guys who wanted to post about Pujols should have posted it in the thread I started in the correct forum, General Sports Discussion, about an hour before this one was started.

[johnsontravis@ymail.com]

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See, you guys who wanted to post about Pujols should have posted it in the thread I started in the correct forum, General Sports Discussion, about an hour before this one was started.

Exactly why I didn't mind getting it off topic in the first place.

[dangerzone79]

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For the Pujols fans out there, here's the bat he hit 500 with. Pretty cool.

[BamaHater]

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Here is a pic of the 500 HR Ball

[allstarsplus]

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Here is a pic of the 500 HR Ball

Thanks for sharing that pic. I had a picture of the batboy bringing the ump the specially marked balls. I just didn't know how they were marked. On the video I took I am saying just a second before he hit the 500 "I just want a foulball".

[STLHAMMER32]

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Congrats to Albert!

Ozzie and Jose Canseco.....identical twins who grew up with same environment and both used performance enhancers is the easiest comparison to show that steroids and the strength/recovery time only plays a small factor in the game. I would even argue the mental placebo effect has more to do with the results than the physical gain associated with steroids at times. I've seen players decline using steroids trying to gain an edge....could it be attributed to the "guilt" of using, body adjustments/side effects? Who knows...

[Roady]

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Congrats to Albert!

Ozzie and Jose Canseco.....identical twins who grew up with same environment and both used performance enhancers is the easiest comparison to show that steroids and the strength/recovery time only plays a small factor in the game. I would even argue the mental placebo effect has more to do with the results than the physical gain associated with steroids at times. I've seen players decline using steroids trying to gain an edge....could it be attributed to the "guilt" of using, body adjustments/side effects? Who knows...

Name the players who declined while using steroids.

[Roady]

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The mental gymnastics some of you do to justify your favorite players steroid use is amazing, and shameful.

[sportsnbikes]

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If I had caught that ball I would've sold it. Only because Albert doesn't do most fans any favors and because of many stories I've heard. He gets every single done he can from his bats and etc. Why should I do him any favors?

But, I didn't catch it.

[STLHAMMER32]

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Wow.... How quickly time has gone since Albert hit HR #1 on April 6, 2001. I thought I would share the line-up card from Albert's first HR of his career.



Thank you,

Karl

Great piece
Karl!

[STLHAMMER32]

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Name the players who declined while using steroids.

The ones that I personally witnessed you would not know of...which was kind of the point I was making. The steroids are a very small part of the equation and don't create hall of fame talent...certainly an edge can be obtained but hall of fame talent does not come about due to steroids...

Here are some major league names to research that were caught in some respect with PED's........

Chad Allen, Mike Bell, Howie Clark, Chris Donnels, Nook Logan, Bart Miadich, Cody Mckay, Adam Piatt, Adam Riggs, Todd Williams....etc


Jeremy Giambi, Mike Bell.....both had brothers that were major league all-stars....they both used steroids and didn't come close to matching career achievements.

I think each person is entitled to an opinion without it being shameful to do so.What facts do you have to show steroids improves a player to hall of fame talent....I can show you plenty more who used that barely made it to the league....but I would challenge you to be able to prove a Hall of fame type player couldn't have done it without roids......

[MLB~NUT]

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For the Pujols fans out there, here's the bat he hit 500 with. Pretty cool.

He looks Soo Happy & Humble.... Lol...

[kwitzel]

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Great piece
Karl!

The early days of the St. Louis Cardinals Winter Warm-up Albert would personalize an item, such as the line-up card. Albert is my favorite player, but as the years past both at the St. Louis Cardinals Winter Warm-up and the signing that Albert use to do in Kansas City the chances of getting an item personalized was a bit tough.

Thank you,

Karl

[Roady]

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The ones that I personally witnessed you would not know of...which was kind of the point I was making. The steroids are a very small part of the equation and don't create hall of fame talent...certainly an edge can be obtained but hall of fame talent does not come about due to steroids...

Here are some major league names to research that were caught in some respect with PED's........

Chad Allen, Mike Bell, Howie Clark, Chris Donnels, Nook Logan, Bart Miadich, Cody Mckay, Adam Piatt, Adam Riggs, Todd Williams....etc


Jeremy Giambi, Mike Bell.....both had brothers that were major league all-stars....they both used steroids and didn't come close to matching career achievements.

I think each person is entitled to an opinion without it being shameful to do so.What facts do you have to show steroids improves a player to hall of fame talent....I can show you plenty more who used that barely made it to the league....but I would challenge you to be able to prove a Hall of fame type player couldn't have done it without roids......

You may have a point if not for two very glaring things.
1 We are not clones of one another.
2 Not all steroids are equal.